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05-11-2012, 15:23
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
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Originally Posted by Hannah on 'Rita T'
Dockhead, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I didn't misunderstand the OP, I knew he was referring to himself, the term is offensive in whatever context and this Forum is pretty careful about language, I think. And, for the record, I was giving him serious advice about the trip, been there, done that, have the t-shirt, and I can tell you he couldn't count on being able to get safely far enough east from anywhere in Florida to sail south to Puerto Rico, in the winter the trades are the problem, in the summer the chance of a hurricane -- on a26 foot McGregor he is unlikely to have SSB or other reliable weather routing information. I don't believe he is a serious sailor, so I'm not now very concerned. And who knew there were "McGregor dealers" anywhere. Sigh.
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I agree with you. The term is offensive to me also. You gave him good advice.
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05-11-2012, 15:37
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Moderator Emeritus
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
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Originally Posted by Hannah on 'Rita T'
.................. the term is offensive...................
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Hannah on Rita, Your advice about the course to take to Puerto Rico is universally wise; however, the interpretation of a word selected as retard, feeble, dimwitted, stupid or inane and more is tempered with a worldwide variety of connotations and very difficult to evaluate. I hope you can accept that many might not see the term as sensitive or applied in the manner that you perceive it to be.
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05-11-2012, 15:57
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Destin, Fl
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
A 26' McGregor is definitely NOT a blue water boat. I am a thrill seeker, but would not make the trip as you want to. Time to regroup......
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05-11-2012, 16:06
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: B'ham, Al
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
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Originally Posted by skipperr100
A 26' McGregor is definitely NOT a blue water boat. I am a thrill seeker, but would not make the trip as you want to. Time to regroup......
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WARNING......THREAD DERAIL IMMANENT!!!
Hey, another Alabamian. I thought we were the minority around here.
Glad I found someone else from a somewhat close location.
Awesome
James L
END IF THREAD DERAILMENT!!!!
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05-11-2012, 16:19
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
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Originally Posted by CaptForce
Hannah on Rita, Your advice about the course to take to Puerto Rico is universally wise; however, the interpretation of a word selected as retard, feeble, dimwitted, stupid or inane and more is tempered with a worldwide variety of connotations and very difficult to evaluate. I hope you can accept that many might not see the term as sensitive or applied in the manner that you perceive it to be.
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Capt, to anyone who works with people who have special needs or have such a person within their family, that word is like calling a Black man the N word. It is that offensive to some people. I think it's going to take time for that view to be completely accepted, but having taught special needs students and having successfully raised a child with some significant challenges to be a very successful young lady, that word hits me right in the solar plexis. There was a time when racial comments were widely accepted, too. Thank goodness that time is gone.
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05-11-2012, 16:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
Watch out, the PC police are out in full force!
Thread should have been locked when I suggested it!
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05-11-2012, 16:41
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
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Originally Posted by dsmastern
Watch out, the PC police are out in full force!
Thread should have been locked when I suggested it!
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Oh no......we are
I try to be PC most of the time.....but I will sometimes pull the pin on the grenade. I just try to do it with sarcasm and without name calling. I'm trying to be a useful member of CF and not have huge a huge number of people ignore me.
James L
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06-11-2012, 06:15
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#53
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Location: Tampa, FL
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
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Originally Posted by skipmac
Elskede is asking for free advise on a public forum and in that situation you don't get to tell people what they can and cannot say.
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Frankly, I always get a pretty good laugh out of the people who try.
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06-11-2012, 06:44
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: Sailing From Jax Florida To Puerto Rico Please Respond. Any Input Appreciated
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Originally Posted by dsmastern
Watch out, the PC police are out in full force!
Thread should have been locked when I suggested it!
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Ah - yep.
The OP's problem has been solved, and there is nothing left of the original topic to discuss. Since the discussion is becoming truly irrelevant and useless from a cruising point of view, this would be a good time to close it.
Cheers, everyone.
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