Originally Posted by Old Soul Wayne
I really should start two threads, but the ideas are related. So here goes, I would like to forward two ideas. One idea being the possibility of someone with time, knowledge and help from this forum to start a sailing co op in a warm climate. The help from this forum could be in allowing the co op to advertise and be part of the community( as in the social community). Of course the co op should be " non profit". I am just putting the idea forward and see where it bounces. This might make things a little more accessible for the dreamers.
I believe there are more out there than one would think.
There is of course a difference between "not for profit" and costing SFA!
The boat(s) do need to be paid for and maintained - and someone does also need to manage them (and all that costs in time and money)......probably closest thing is some variation of the YachtFractions idea (boats on Timeshares, owned and managed by a small group of individuals rather than a Charter
company - usual MO is weeks per year, but no reason why the idea could not be seasons instead. Obviously a cost involved overall and capital to be put up front - with no guarantee of the return (when boat sold)......but certainly "not for profit" - just will
have a cost. an uncertain cost at that.
Apart from that I can't see it being a commercially viable thing to do simply on a long term (season / year long) charter
basis - once you factor in the capital invested (and the risk of numpties as Skippers) and the time to manage the venture..........but, I've been wrong before!
IMO if not commercially viable and the boat users themselves not willing to put up the capital and pay the maintanence costs (and to take the risk on the return) then will need an extraordinarily generous person to fund the boat(s) in money
and time - good luck with that!
Next idea would be for members that are out there cruising to also start a group. This would be a social group that people could see a list and be able contact the person via this forum. Members of this group could be anywhere in the world at any given time. What they offer is for a fee a chance for a person to cruise and learn from them. They could accept clients on their time frame and possibly get to know them a bit better via this forum.
I would love to have a chance to go cruising with some of the posters on this forum. I really love the sense of humor of most of the regulars. And to go for a cruise with them would be great.
I can see how that could be attractive to someone wanting to get onboard, but really don't see how that would be attractive to Owners or how it differs from simply taking crew onboard who contribute to "expenses" (however that is defined - before becoming a charter fee).
But, FWIW, have been kicking over something vaguely similar by creating a sailing Charity locally - targetted at low income
/ unemployed / homeless (most of our homeless are housed, and for most unemployment is a transitional thing). The idea being to use 2 or 3 small boats (20 footers - plus or minus) that are very basically equipped for day sailing
, and maybe a bit of fishing
or simply sitting onboard having a beer
. To work around any licensing or training requirements folk would acquire 1 share in the boat for £1 (with a 1 year buy back agreement).....apart from the sailing end of things, an opportunity for some to get involved in the maintanence side (rather than watching daytime TV etc) - But probably another DOJ
idea that never goes anywhere