Enough already. Yes I fully understand that sailing conditions can be different at a coastal city than further offshore
as I've been in such situations hundreds of times--but that's not the point here. Puhh lease! The acrimony, unpleasantness, negativity and insults here are astonishing as I am made out to be a bad guy, an idiot, a terrible sailor, narcissist, a nutcase ad infinitum as nauseum because I raised questions and tried to answer them.
I still believe my concerns were and are legitimate. I still believe that hoaxes are wrong and must be brought to light. I still believe this is a good forum where mostly good sailors do try to enhance boating
for the greater good. I have tried on numerous occasions to provide information, answer questions and be of assistance. Having said that I am also more than happy to concede that this was probably--and I say probably not a hoax because I've not been able to corroborate anything except a couple of private messages from the OP. I received no response from the MRCC.
Nobody on this site has really been able to verify weather details because we are unsure of the exact place or date but when I tried to do so, my sanity and everything else was questioned and I got dragged over the coals. What this appears to be was that a particularly naive and inexperienced person was worried about a friend and came here for help-something about which I think we all agree, and he really had no clue about much of anything--the boat, the route
, the weather, the location. ALL and I mean all he had was a GPS
tracking device which led him to believe the boat was at a navy dock
in Algiers and he was worried because there were State Department travel warnings. All legitimate...or so I think. Even by his own admission to me there were no Force 9 winds. He was guessing and he knows nothing about sailing anyhow. He still did not say why the boat diverted and why nobody contacted him. But--hear me out please. At this point this was a political and diplomatic not a sea safety
issue--yes? The boat was safe at a port but maybe the crew was in danger
This OP who claims to use a GPS, does mechanical work and run an online forum himself told me he did not know how to dial outside the US, could not find any information about the Department of State (claiming that two phone
numbers given to him here were inoperable although I found they did work), told me he was unaware that there was not a US Embassy in the states but only in foreign countries, and never explained why he had no comms with his friend in Algiers,, although now it is pretty clear he could not dial outside of the US because he did not know about dialing a country code first (which may not have mattered with a cell phone
...maybe but he told me did not know how to do it)
In any event, it was never my intention to malign anyone as I raised questions and sought answers. I know that many good people on here jumped to action to respond and that's great and worthy of respect--as I indicated previously. Their actions helped this person--or so it appears, and he did need a lot of help.
However, if our intent is to build a community, and that is based on mutual respect and honesty, then I believe that some of the respondents here should think twice about the nastiness and mean spirited nature of some of their comments directed toward me. While I genuinely raised questions and sought answers I became the subject--the subject of a smear campaign yet all along I said that if I were wrong I would admit it.
So was I wrong? Apparently I was, if it can be based solely on the private messages I received from the OP. He insists he had no reason to lie. I believe he was in a panic, over reacted and did not have the experience or problem solving ability to figure what needed to be done which was to simply contact the US embassy. A simple web search of keywords such as US citizens abroad or US citizens help in foreign countries immediately brings up good information and contacts for the US Department of State. Yet again--he was even provided two working numbers here but said they did not work. I think it is pretty evident as to why he could not reach the State Department.
I am a naturally skeptical person but I got labeled as a conspiracy theorist wearing a tin foil hat! That's really silly.
I am glad this man was helped. I am relieved his friend is safe. I am pleased that people here helped him--or at least tried. What this really appears to be is the story of a boat that may or may not have been in danger
, that may or may not have been in a full gale and that for whatever reason, went to Algiers. Yes I am the only one here who questioned that but I stand by my reasoning for raising these questions.
Again, based only on two private emails from the OP which provided no details, no corroboration or further information (and he was unable to provide anything else online either) it appears that his story is true. I have only his word to go by.
If we lived in an age where a person's word meant everything, where there were no internet
impostors or scams and were everything was as it appears to be, this would never have happened. I would certainly have replied with information about contacting the US Embassy in Algiers but others beat me to it but when he said he could not reach the US Embassy...well I had to wonder.
My intent was never to rub anyone's nose in anything, but to get to the bottom of this.
So again, and finally, and please, no more....can we be done? The basic story of his friend's boat seeking shelter in Algiers is probably true and I apologize for causing any offense. Let's put this bed
with whatever lessons we all may have learned. Fair enough?