Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 21-02-2015, 04:36   #16
Moderator Emeritus
 
HappyMdRSailor's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon
Posts: 5,975
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

Oh man...

I think you need a full keel sloop rigged boat...

LIKE THIS ONE!!!
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...or-131967.html



I kid... Welcome to CF... We're enjoying your company and questions... AND...

That good old camaraderie thing...
__________________
In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair...

Mai Tai's fix everything...
HappyMdRSailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-02-2015, 05:44   #17
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New York
Boat: FP, Eleuthera 60
Posts: 531
Images: 4
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Nova View Post
Uh...no.



Excellent post. I would add that the cutter rig gives one more options for shortening sail and balancing the boat. A removable inner forestay is handy.
most masts today are aluminum, so the skinnier (thinner) will need more spreaders to keep them on line...it is a complex subject with not just a one word answer, ergo the engineers who design the sticks.
MIRELOS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-02-2015, 07:25   #18
Moderator
 
Adelie's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Ciudad de la Misión Didacus de Alcalá en Alta California, Virreinato de Nueva España
Boat: Cal 20
Posts: 20,590
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

Quote:
Originally Posted by whprsnpr View Post
Question...

I am not necessarily certain, but it appears as if there are seasons where winds and ocean conditions may be more favorable for making the journey from our West coast to say, Hawaii.

And, when someone is making plans and preparations, is there a method of coordinating with other boaters who might be planning the same passage.


Safety in numbers kind of thought...
Yes there are definitely certain times you want to make certain passages. "World Cruising Routes" by Jimmy Cornell is the best source for timing of small boat passages.

There is also "Ocean Passages of the World" aka British Admiralty Publication #136. BA#136 comes with a map of the whole world showing major SAILING routes and timing for each. This map can be obtained separately (and much more cheaply) as BA chart #5308.

And there are Atlases of Pilot Charts for the various oceans or major parts thereof. They can be downloaded for free from http://msi.nga.mil/NGAPortal/MSI.por...2&pubCode=0003 although I am currently have problems getting the link to work.
__________________
Num Me Vexo?
For all of your celestial navigation questions: https://navlist.net/
A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
Adelie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-02-2015, 08:57   #19
Registered User
 
Scout 30's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Florida
Boat: Scout 30
Posts: 3,112
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

You left out my favorite rigs, schooner, yawl & unstayed cat or cat ketch (Nonsuch & Freeedom). A neat feature of ketch & yawl rigs is you can use the mizzen to weather vane the boat to keep it from sailing at anchor.
Scout 30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-02-2015, 08:57   #20
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,518
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyMdRSailor View Post
Oh man...

I think you need a full keel sloop rigged boat...

LIKE THIS ONE!!!
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...or-131967.html



I kid... Welcome to CF... We're enjoying your company and questions... AND...

That good old camaraderie thing...
That looks like a clean machine... someone on here was looking in that size range.... I think they had kids... purrfect
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-02-2015, 13:23   #21
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Placida FL on the hard for now real nice place cheep rent .
Boat: 78 Laguna ,Windrose 24'
Posts: 119
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

There was a thread yesterday you truly should read . About a trip to Hawaii going bad , very very informative . I read that, and then found out about the 1979 Fastnet race 10 that when't terribly bad . Many lives lost. I watched an hour movie on YouTube. After watching this i'm very glad i've spent the last 2 years completely redoing my great little racing sloop to a live aboard for strength & safety . It will be just me single handing so i don't care for anything bigger , i have what i have. And yes Hawaii is my final destination.
sailersteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-02-2015, 06:07   #22
Moderator Emeritus
 
HappyMdRSailor's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon
Posts: 5,975
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako View Post
That looks like a clean machine... someone on here was looking in that size range.... I think they had kids... purrfect
Thanks Cheech!

New link... relisted from archive fiasco...
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ed-141619.html

Sumbuddy will like her...
__________________
In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair...

Mai Tai's fix everything...
HappyMdRSailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-02-2015, 20:13   #23
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Pensacola Shipyard
Boat: 1983 CS 36
Posts: 19
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

Blue Water: Fin Keel, Skeg mounted rudder, Cutter rig
Cruising: Full Keel, Cutter Rig
Steve.g.p is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-02-2015, 05:35   #24
Registered User
 
Scout 30's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Florida
Boat: Scout 30
Posts: 3,112
Re: Sail Configuration and Keel/Rudder Design

Blue Water: full keel, cutter rig.


Lin and Larry Pardey's Boat Taleisin | YachtPals.com
Scout 30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
keel, rudder, sail


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Tanzer 22 Shoal Keel / Center Board Design and Duel Axle Trailer no-mad Classifieds Archive 2 03-07-2011 11:49
Sail configuration Jack Long Monohull Sailboats 26 10-09-2008 12:29
Beaufort Sail Configuration unbusted67 Seamanship & Boat Handling 7 22-07-2007 21:19
Keel & Rudder Design GordMay Construction, Maintenance & Refit 1 16-08-2005 14:04

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 17:48.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.