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Old 20-05-2010, 10:23   #1
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Rule Breakers: Fast vs Slow

I think it was 1972 or 4, in the SORC race, a boat was entered that won overall, as soon as it won it was disqualified and removed from the winners list. The reason it was a rule beater and went to slow and the race was for fast boats. If memory serves here it was a cat-ketch made of cement and was built to beat every rule SORC had put together. Does any one remember the guy’s name? Rumor had it at the time that it cost less than $1500 to build when all the money yachts cost a ka-jillion.
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Old 20-05-2010, 20:37   #2
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You are probably referring to "Cascade" designed by Jerry Milgram. The details have doubtless gotten exaggerated over time.
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Sounds a bit like what Americas Cup contenders might try. What if a kite boarder somehow qualified under the rules?
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You are probably referring to "Cascade" designed by Jerry Milgram...
Ugly little Cascade' infuriated ocean-racing purists on - 03.12.73 - SI Vault

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Very interesting read...thanks for sharing!
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beating the rules is and has been a major part of handicap racing.. For over 4 years I took a Modified Catalina 22 MKll (new boat) with a Capri keel and an expermental rudder to boat of the year with the Yacht Club and high in the numbers in Offshore races..
We did this as the stock C22 was rated at 270.. in the first round of racing, YRA bumped me 6 seconds per mile on the keel and 3 seconds on the wider beam of the boat.. for over 4 years, YRA kept hacking at the numbers until they had me down around 180.. at that point the advantage was gone so I sold the boat..
Another boat on the market is the old J22.. with numbers "set in stone" the boat can be upgraded with kevlar sails, rod rigging, and a number of other things without affecting the handicap.. and pushed slightly, will deliver 1st overall constently..
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A guy I was racing with installed a pump to move fuel from one tank to another tank dependant on which tack he was on.

Was he showing that his boat could be faster?

No, the mongrel was cheating.
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That was a good read Gordy...Any pictures of Cascade floating around?
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Thanks again for the great sleuthing Gord!

One article says it can go to windward the other says it can't?????
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beating the rules is and has been a major part of handicap racing.. For over 4 years I took a Modified Catalina 22 MKll (new boat) with a Capri keel and an expermental rudder to boat of the year with the Yacht Club and high in the numbers in Offshore races..
We did this as the stock C22 was rated at 270.. in the first round of racing, YRA bumped me 6 seconds per mile on the keel and 3 seconds on the wider beam of the boat.. for over 4 years, YRA kept hacking at the numbers until they had me down around 180.. at that point the advantage was gone so I sold the boat..
Another boat on the market is the old J22.. with numbers "set in stone" the boat can be upgraded with kevlar sails, rod rigging, and a number of other things without affecting the handicap.. and pushed slightly, will deliver 1st overall constently..
That's why I only race in one-designs. The post-race discussions (arguments?) are NEVER about ratings/rule breakers. The discussions are about the sailing, who had the best strategy, where your errors were, etc (of course, their are always a few discussions about how the leaders boats have go around the class rules).

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