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Old 26-01-2014, 06:21   #1
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Rise in global crime and violence

Hi Folks

I dont get involved on the forums as I used to and so what appears to me to be a rise in crime and violence related posts has been obvious, - unless ive come aboard on a particularly bad week?

Im very active in other online political areas so im more aware than most people as to the way the world seems to be headed, - but with that comes the danger that some days all I see is evidence of crime, violence and hatred.

Am I to believe this is a growing trend in the cruising/vacation/sailing/live aboard also?

The perennial topic of guns seems to rear its head every so often when a noobie sailor joins the site and that wont ever change, but are anchorages and destinations becoming less safe generally?
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

I'm not so sure about cruisers but from what I can gather after doing some reading is that the world is safer than its ever been BUT the communication has never been better so we are aware of crimes like we have never been before in the past. Fear is something that the media use to sell and all Governments use to control, well religions too I guess but when you compare crime stats its never been safer.
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

Robert brings up a good point...we are made aware when someone stubs a toes in China with the instant information access most of us now have. We are aware of a violent act taking place just about anywhere in the world very quickly. It may be that there is actually no more prevalence of violence.
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

I think the world is hopefully a lot safer as thankfully maybe we won't have WWIII for a little while yet, but personal safety seem to have gotten worse. There is more violent crime here where I live, or at least the violent crime has moved into the "Burbs" where it used to not be.
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

Unfortunately, there is money to be had by criminals in "the burbs" and they always seek easy money.
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Rise in populations = rise in crimes..
Castrate them and kill off the gene pool...
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

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BUT the communication has never been better so we are aware of crimes like we have never been before in the past.

If you weren't reading sailing/cruising forums, how much crime against cruisers would you ever hear about?
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

Are we talking real crime? Or loud obnoxious music assaults? How about fashion crimes? Or cheating at cards? Sorry, I know it is a serious problem. Sometimes I can't help myself.
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If you weren't reading sailing/cruising forums, how much crime against cruisers would you ever hear about?

None, I don't get broadcast TV in my house, and don't get a newspaper
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

i hear only about the stuff going on in estado guerrero because i have telcel and they update mexican news...as for usa...is always same same except addition of police state tactics against civilians and goggies etc....
as for world safety..is a delusion, only a delusion. we are only as safe as we practice, which means,, do not be a victim. do not show wealth. do not keep high profile. do not travel in unsafe areas........lol just as before.
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

I'm not sure how you would propose to answer this question here anjou. Anecdotal reflections of what's in front of each responder's world is probably not that useful. Unless you are headed to a particular location, in which case hearing from someone on the ground is very useful.

I could point you to the latest UN report: "World crime trends and emerging issues..."

From the report:
"Data from 2011 on property-related crime, violent crime and drug-related crime confirm trends observed over the past 17 years. Levels of property crime continue to slowly decrease, while drug-related crime continues to increase (see figure 1). Average trends with regard to violent crimes are stabilizing, with different patterns seen in different regions.

I really think Robert nailed it directly. Crime is going down almost everywhere, but enhanced communications, combined with the increasing loudness of those who sell fear, are making it seem otherwise.

If you look at the report you see that all broad trends are heading down; all except drug-related crimes, which are on a steep upswing. Of course, that's not to say there aren't some areas are not getting worse. And perhaps (speculation alert here!) there is a correlation between where rich westerners (cruisers) go, and crime. Hmmmm....
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

Crime overall is slowly decreasing.

The following is only tangential to the topic of global crime (or cruiser crime), but it underscores how a conscious global effort to eradicate poverty and disease brings dividends, not only in lowering crime rate but in other areas as well.

It has a particular answer for all you worried Malthusians: there's proof that improved conditions cause a marked lowering of the birth-rate.

Anyway it's a good read.

The 2014 Gates Foundation Annual Letter
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I think if you could estimate the world wide cruiser population and then index the violent crimes against cruisers per capita, it would be on par or surpass the most dangerous countries and cities.
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

I'd say less in some areas and more crime in others, just depends on where you are. More communication via news and internet means more awareness, and ways to gain knowledge on how to best protect yourself and be ready.

Violence increased last week in St. Lucia against cruisers, maybe this week it's down in the same harbor because of all the media coverage. You just never know, so it's better to be ready just in case... and not bury your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't happen, or can't happen to you.
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Re: Rise in global crime and violence

Ok, so it looks like there is no problem, all stats are well within limits and the trend is downwards

In that case, im gonna stick my head back up my ass and see y'all same time next year for another update.

In the mean time folks, y'all have a good time, calm seas, fair winds, keep your ammo dry (or not if your a liberal wannabe victim), tight lines, keep calm and carry on cruising.
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