Registration Help Please

[Kristov93]

Originally Posted by Kristov93

Yeah I don't want to get her valued as I don't want to get slugged for the true value or there perceived value! I want to go low but not too low that they say ok we want it valued mister!!! Fine line!!!
as the previous owner had it imported stating a low price in NZ I am still wondering if I should go for gold and claim a similar price in Australia with the old kiwi documentation as a kind of backup!

Saying that again im afraid the Oz customs wont buy it and along comes there valuer at my expense! a similar thing happened to a mate of mine he did not have NZ import documentation though but he stated a price they declined it bought in a valuer at his cost and he quoted extremely high! probably as punishment for trying it !!,Any thoughts???

Now thanks to the previous posts I think I have got a grasp of what needs to be done for entering! Bummed that they will surely class me as a permanent resident even though I am a kiwi and it says in black and white on there web page permanant residents will be charged tax and duty and not get the year cruising visa! I can't see a way around this ???

And as previous posts have mentioned there know fools they deal with this everyday! Hah they probably read threads like this to if there sailers themselves as some of them know doubt would be! It just seem like a **** load money! Hard earned money but hey that's capitalism and OZ ain't the only country extorting! There all at it! Bless them

Cheers once more

Oh I re read your post ! You want me to junk her! This is true genius on paying low tax and duty! Finally a practical loophole

[Kristov93]

Oh and a bit of thread I have a flare gun on board! I like it! Will they take it!

[Jimbo485]

You hire the valuer, not Customs.

[MarkSF]

Originally Posted by Emmalina

The more I read about that police state the less i wish to visit....

Whenever regulations come up, someone likens somewhere to a police state. What do you think a police state is? Clue - it's not a country with a lot of regulations. It's one where the police are used to further the political ends of a particular ruler.

Examples would be Nazi Germany, South Africa under apartheid, the Soviet Union, and China.

Police state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:De...en_and_red.png

[Kristov93]

Originally Posted by Mr B

Police State, Only if you ride a motor bike in Queensland, Your automatically a criminal,

Stay out of Queensland, Hahahahaha

That's stretching it too Mr B but yeah I don't agree with that law and one would think the courts won't eventually! If they do now that's food for thought!

Give the police to much power and they will abuse it!! Quick to swap sides too! Bless

Any loophole yet people ,there are none are there ! Damn the system

[Mr B]

Originally Posted by Kristov93

Oh and a bit of thread I have a flare gun on board! I like it! Will they take it!

Yes. Customs will take your Flare gun off you and give it back to you 3 days later,

But it is classified as a fire arm in OZ,

And the Police will confiscate it off you if you dont have the appropriate gun licence for it,

I took mine down to the local Police station and handed mine in,
After phoning them and telling them I was bringing a Flare Gun in, In a box, Hahahaha,

I did ring the Water Police and asked them about it first, They checked it out and said it was Illegal to carry them here, And to hand it in to the Local Police station,

Flare Guns do carry huge fines for an unregistered hand gun with no licence for it,

Mine came with my Boat,
Excellent bit of kit, Flare Guns, Very easy and simple to use,

It can Even be tied to your clothing in the water and it will still work, Wet,
Which is what it is supposed to do,

Try bobbing around in the Ocean and trying to get one of those Stick Flares happening, Hahahahaha,

[Kristov93]

Originally Posted by Mr B

Yes. Customs will take your Flare gun off you and give it back to you 3 days later,

But it is classified as a fire arm in OZ,

And the Police will confiscate it off you if you dont have the appropriate gun licence for it,

I took mine down to the local Police station and handed mine in,
After phoning them and telling them I was bringing a Flare Gun in, In a box, Hahahaha,

I did ring the Water Police and asked them about it first, They checked it out and said it was Illegal to carry them here, And to hand it in to the Local Police station,

Flare Guns do carry huge fines for an unregistered hand gun with no licence for it,

Mine came with my Boat,
Excellent bit of kit, Flare Guns, Very easy and simple to use,

It can Even be tied to your clothing in the water and it will still work, Wet,
Which is what it is supposed to do,

Try bobbing around in the Ocean and trying to get one of those Stick Flares happening, Hahahahaha,

Damn there gonna take my flare gun too! Will sell it in new cal to a yachtie! Prob get busted for arms dealing!! I guess there is no point concealing it on board and pleading ignorance if they discover it! My flaregun I was so happy when I found that on board! That hurts

[Seman]

How long can an OZ registered boat purchased O/S by an Australian cruise in OZ before Duties / Taxes are demanded?

[Wanderlust]

Originally Posted by Seman

How long can an OZ registered boat purchased O/S by an Australian cruise in OZ before Duties / Taxes are demanded?

A boat owned by an Australian incurs the tax liability immediately on arrival.

However if you buy a boat that has previously had the taxes paid, and remained an Autralian registered boat, I don't think you need to pay the taxes again. If that is what you mean I suggest checking further to be sure.

As for those scared of valuations, I would not be too concerned. There are valuers you can engage that know how to justify a low value. When I was planning to buy overseas I spoke to one who said his values are about what you would expect to net out of a sale if the boat went to auction, or lower.

Sorry I don't have any names to recommend as I changed my plans.

Of course, if a boat is purchased in the last 12 months, customs will usually accept the overseas purchase price plus cost of getting it here as the value.

There is another long thread on this subject with lots of information.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...alia-3346.html

[Gerrycooper56]

The free trade agreement with US for US manufactured boats only started in 2000 or something like that. Our boat was 1991 and we were told we had to pay. You don't have to import to sell as others advise as you can get a 12 month permit but if you want to import ( and ours was Australian registered) AQIS had to clear the boat first which took us 3 months before Customs had to be paid.

[svseachange]

Originally Posted by Gerrycooper56

Our boat was 1991 and we were told we had to pay.

Good to know. I need to be ready to pay 15% of the valuation.

[Gerrycooper56]

We sold the boat as soon as we could and fortunately signed up with an agent prior to submitting the boat value to Customs. As it turned out, the agent was also a licenced valuer for Customs so he gave us his value, we paid the appropriate duty then we sold the boat for more.

[Gerrycooper56]

Another issue not mentioned here and may not apply to you is that AQIS wanted to know if the boat had been slipped in the last 12 months for a bottom job, what paint was used and did you have the receipts. In part I think this was because you could still buy tin based paint in the Caribbean. ( you can still buy a tin based 'booster').
If they didn't like the paint that was on the boat they could demand the paint be stripped in an approved manner and then replaced with right stuff.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by Gerrycooper56

Another issue not mentioned here and may not apply to you is that AQIS wanted to know if the boat had been slipped in the last 12 months for a bottom job, what paint was used and did you have the receipts. In part I think this was because you could still buy tin based paint in the Caribbean. ( you can still buy a tin based 'booster').
If they didn't like the paint that was on the boat they could demand the paint be stripped in an approved manner and then replaced with right stuff.

Thanks, never knew that. I'd be buying some "AQIS happy"antifoul just to get the receipts.

[Gerrycooper56]

Or do what others were doing and buy approved anti foul on one receipt and tin booster on another.