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Old 16-04-2014, 19:48   #511
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Re: Rebel Heart's Contribution to the Cruising Community

Not at all...I like using incidents like yours to help educate others on what can happen when they open mouth and insert foot....you have been great, but I would recommed a little mouth wash later this evening..ha ha ha

People get a little education about what's out there on the internet...and we all have some fun while we wait for Eric to fill us in on when his book will be ready for release....
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I think he'd have been a whole lot better off if he'd listened to the advice given to him by several here, and properly repaired or replaced his fuel tank to the boats intended capacity of 90 gallons. He could also have carried some large panga tanks on deck, or enough Gerry cans to make up at least 50 gallons. Attempting this crossing with fuel capacity reduced to 1/3 of the boats designed load was unwise, IMHO. He seems to agree, given the quotes above.
I suppose one alternative for others who want to cruise dependent on electronically powered systems is to bite the bullet and purchase a small gas powered genset as a backup or primary charge source. Running the main just to charge batteries is a pretty big mismatch of potential vs. output as well as really, really fuel inefficient. A 2kw Honda will burn for over 9 hours on one gallon of gas. It's a pain to find room for them, although they will fit in a lazarette and 4 jerry cans will give you weeks of run time.
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I'm not so sure that the "designed capacity" has anything to do with it. My boat's about the same size and has a 30 gallon designed capacity. I do, however, agree that if you're going to cross the ITCZ with a young family on a small boat, it would be very nice to be able to get your ass down to the trades faster. More diesel would have markedly improved the mood on board.

In this case, of course, they were rescued due to a sick child, not a grumpy spouse. If they had been motoring, they would have been more like 1500 miles from land and even harder to reach for rescue when their child got sick.




Sure, but if he'd been looking at a tank with 80 gallons in it instead of a tank with 20 at the time of rescue, perhaps he'd have been more tempted to stay aboard instead of scuttling. And that mood appeared to really really need marked improvement. It's not unimportant.
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In this case, of course, they were rescued due to a sick child, not a grumpy spouse. If they had been motoring, they would have been more like 1500 miles from land and even harder to reach for rescue when their child got sick.
sorry i am going to have to blow a hole in that assumption as well.
unfortunatly,a lie begets a lie,note the dates and the time line.

from face book comment by charlottes sister via sat phone from rh

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What I was told about Lyra was that she had a rash all over, a fever, vomiting and diarrhea. She had been on antibiotic for five days and was not responding. That is when they sent the distress call.
4 April at 20:57 Like 1

Pacific Crossing – Day 14, April 1, 2014 Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 0:51
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

no mention of sick child on antibiotics

Pacific Crossing – Day 13, March 31, 2014
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 at 7:04
Thirteen days at sea. For some people thirteen is unlucky. I was born on the 13th (of June) and have always considered it a number for good luck. We are in good spirits, as good as you can be, considering.

no mention of sick child on antibiotics

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none of us have sustained any long term injuries other than the bruising typically associated with offshore passage making.

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sorry i am going to have to blow a hole in that assumption as well.
unfortunatly,a lie begets a lie,note the dates and the time line.

from face book comment by charlottes sister

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What I was told about Lyra was that she had a rash all over, a fever, vomiting and diarrhea. She had been on antibiotic for five days and was not responding. That is when they sent the distress call.
4 April at 20:57 Like 1

Pacific Crossing – Day 14, April 1, 2014 Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 0:51
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

no mention of sick child on antibiotics

Pacific Crossing – Day 13, March 31, 2014
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 at 7:04
Thirteen days at sea. For some people thirteen is unlucky. I was born on the 13th (of June) and have always considered it a number for good luck. We are in good spirits, as good as you can be, considering.

no mention of sick child on antibiotics

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Monday, March 31, 2014 at 11:22

none of us have sustained any long term injuries other than the bruising typically associated with offshore passage making.

all quote take directly from the blog here
Rebel Heart - Eric's Blog
Whoa Hold off there. You have them out of order and you don't consider its an ESCALATION of symptoms.

Monday, March 31, 2014 at 11:22 Eric No LONG term injuries

Tuesday, April 1, 2014 at 7:04 - We are in good spirits, as good as you can be, considering. SMB: considering what?

Pacific Crossing – Day 14, April 1, 2014 Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 0:51
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. SMB: whatever that means

She had been on antibiotic for five days and was not responding. That is when they sent the distress call.
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I contend that the illness ESCALATED. They did not start with full symptoms yet.

Are you the same?
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Now, now, Rich, calm down and don't be so self-centered. Just because someone refers to an obnoxious blowhard it doesn't necessarily mean they are talking about you.

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So see, this "usual blowhard", as called by the usual personal attacker type of poster (Mr Delfin) seems to have some first hand experience with reality. The truth is out there...are you ready for it...or will you attack it? SV THIRD DAY

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Well, that escalated fast.
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sorry i am going to have to blow a hole in that assumption as well.
unfortunatly,a lie begets a lie,note the dates and the time line.

from face book comment by charlottes sister via sat phone from rh

Sariah Kay English
What I was told about Lyra was that she had a rash all over, a fever, vomiting and diarrhea. She had been on antibiotic for five days and was not responding. That is when they sent the distress call.
4 April at 20:57 Like 1

Pacific Crossing Day 14, April 1, 2014 Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 0:51
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

no mention of sick child on antibiotics

Pacific Crossing Day 13, March 31, 2014
Tuesday, April 1, 2014 at 7:04
Thirteen days at sea. For some people thirteen is unlucky. I was born on the 13th (of June) and have always considered it a number for good luck. We are in good spirits, as good as you can be, considering.

no mention of sick child on antibiotics

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Monday, March 31, 2014 at 11:22

none of us have sustained any long term injuries other than the bruising typically associated with offshore passage making.

all quote take directly from the blog here
Rebel Heart - Eric's Blog
So if I don't mention something on my blog it didn't happen? Or is it that if I don't mention it I'm lying? And a sickness isn't an injury.

None of us know what happened, and we don't have nearly enough information to start calling people lairs.
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Re: Rebel Heart's Contribution to the Cruising Community

Atoll, you are now implying that they out and out lied about the baby? The 129th said that they were glad to get aboard to tend to baby, and i remember one crew saying baby would of been in dire straights had they waited a day or two before calling for help.
Am I reading you wrong?
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Atoll, you are now implying that they out and out lied about the baby? The 129th said that they were glad to get aboard to tend to baby, and i remember one crew saying baby would of been in dire straights had they waited a day or two before calling for help.
Am I reading you wrong?
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I think the guy said "could" have been, not "would" have been.
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So if I don't mention something on my blog it didn't happen? Or is it that if I don't mention it I'm lying? And a sickness isn't an injury.

None of us know what happened, and we don't have nearly enough information to start calling people lairs.
It does seem like each day a new inconsistency or contradiction show up, and combined with the silence from RH things sure are looking funny. At some point you can no longer ignore the elephant in the room.
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It does seem like each day a new inconsistency or contradiction show up, and combined with the silence from RH things sure are looking funny. At some point you can no longer ignore the elephant in the room.
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