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11-12-2015, 13:18
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
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Originally Posted by Terra Nova
Also used for towing to slow the boat in following seas, during storm conditions.
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I don't think so. That is not how you would set up a drogue or whatever. That thing in the picture would get ripped before you could even deploy your device.
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11-12-2015, 13:28
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
Probably for stern tie. I've done it before for stern tying to trees here in the PNW.
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11-12-2015, 13:29
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
Guy--what are you talking about? I provided no picture.
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11-12-2015, 14:09
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
Look at " Ankorolina "
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11-12-2015, 14:39
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
I once tried selling a reel that held webbing as mentioned by Mark. They didn't sell well for me but I thought it was a good idea.
Quickline sells a very fancy version but they don't call it webbing, they call it "flat rope".
"Look at " Ankorolina " "
That's it! That's the one I tried to sell. Thanks I couldn't remember the name.
What do you guys think of using webbing or "Flat Rope" for docklines and such?
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11-12-2015, 14:51
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
I think some comments are off the original question. I believe these long lines are for towing aft on solo sailor's boats. If the sailor falls overboard he or she can swim directly behind the boat and grab onto the long line. With lots of strength and determination they can pull themselves back to the boat as it tries to sail off without them. Then the next problem is getting on board.
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11-12-2015, 15:04
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
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Originally Posted by Terra Nova
Guy--what are you talking about? I provided no picture.
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There was a picture of a common looking one for rope in maybe the second post.
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11-12-2015, 15:14
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
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Originally Posted by Sirago
I believe these long lines are for towing aft on solo sailor's boats. If the sailor falls overboard he or she can swim directly behind the boat and grab onto the long line.
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Nope. Being a solo sailor, and having met many others, I have never seen one of these rollers used for a safety line. I have read that a few people do drag a short (say 50'-100') line - not the 300' line on my roller - but I have never actually met anyone doing it. Better to do everything to not fall off in the first place, like wearing a harness and tether.
In Scandinavia the webbing models are sold for stern anchoring, as there is a long tradition of leading a bow line ashore and using a stern anchor to hold off of the rocks. Ankorolina is a Scandinavian brand. On power boats it is common to see a power windlass on the swim step for that purpose (and not one on the bow).
The reels with rope are primarily a Mediterranean thing, and again for stern anchoring.
Greg
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11-12-2015, 15:25
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
Don't know about others, but we carry 400 ft of 3/8 polypro line, on a reel. we use it for stern tying in deep, tight, anchorages, up the BC coast. If tying to a rock, or other rough object, we use a piece of sacrificial line to make a loop, then feed our stern line thru that and back to the boat, where we cleat off both ends. When departing, we just reel it in, no need to go ashore to get it untied.
Polypro floats, so less likely to wrap in the wheel.
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11-12-2015, 15:28
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
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Originally Posted by HopCar
...What do you guys think of using webbing or "Flat Rope" for docklines and such?
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Not a chance! Cleats are made for rope.
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11-12-2015, 15:34
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
[QUOTE=01kiwijohn;1984782] If tying to a rock, or other rough object, we use a piece of sacrificial line to make a loop
Is this something you leave ashore?
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11-12-2015, 15:39
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
I think I may have screwed up the reply, so here goes again.
Yep, we just leave it for the next sailor to use.
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11-12-2015, 15:41
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
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Originally Posted by Terra Nova
Not a chance! Cleats are made for rope.
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Actually webbing can secure quite well to cleats. But the only place I use it is for my jacklines as I can walk on it without slipping. For holding a boat in a slip I would definitely not use webbing - it is not nearly as durable and chafe-resistant as rope. Also, I would not use it as a stern rode to hold the bow off rocks for the simple reason that it usually stretches more than rope. In fact I use polyester on the reel instead of nylon so as to reduce the stretch - when tied with the bow a few feet from a stone quay with 100' of stern rode you do not want much stretch.
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11-12-2015, 15:41
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
Some people are missing something significant. The reel is ONLY a storage device — and IMO a good one.
You do not — EVER — put strain on it! Reel off enuff line that you can belay the bight on a bitt or cleat and leave "the bitter end" on the reel with no strain on it.
TrentePieds
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11-12-2015, 15:47
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Re: Reals of rope on stern
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Originally Posted by 01kiwijohn
Yep, we just leave it for the next sailor to use.
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Thanks but I can use my own. I like your idea for an emergency get away.
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