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**boatman61** · 28-05-2011, 10:52

Nice moves... that guy knows his boat.. and his crew..

thinwater · 28-05-2011, 11:12

Yes, skill...

... and still adolescent behavior not deserving respect. He could have easily hurt others for no reason at all, beyond ego.

I'm not impressed.

**capngeo** · 28-05-2011, 11:22

I'd say a bit of both! Regardless of the skipper's skill, there are too many variables involved to SAFELY cut it that close. He may know his boat, he may know the sea, but he WAS lucky!

Butler · 28-05-2011, 11:37

I couldn't agree more Boaty. Love the jockeying for position on the line just for this sort of manuvering. I enjoy anything that floats but consider the noise and havoc were a powerboat to do this.

Bring the skill and she will respond with ineffable grace and precision.

Unicorn Dreams · 28-05-2011, 11:40

I'd say stupidity .

Doesn't take a lot of skill to turn a boat a couple of degrees.
Skill is yurning soon enough so a situation like that never happened. What if someone on the small boat panicked and got hurt.

daddle · 28-05-2011, 13:40

Looks like a race situation. I wouldn't say it's especially unsafe. Turning to windward is quite reliable.

thinwater · 28-05-2011, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddle

Looks like a race situation. I wouldn't say it's especially unsafe. Turning to windward is quite reliable.

What is troubling is WHY; it tells something of how his mind works, that he thought there was value in it.

Any punter can spin a boat within inches of a windward mark. Agreed. I've played that game with marks many times, but NEVER near boats I could run over.

**sarafina** · 28-05-2011, 14:00

heh... racers... whatcha gonna do?

In a non competitive situation totally reprehensible, irresponsible and neglient.

But it clearly was staged. They had those HUGE bumpers and the one was pulled up outta the way and dropped in again after that turn... The person standing in the stern was very calm, the camera was down low for the best camera angle on the maneuver...

in those circumstances...

yeeeeehawwwandhowbitchinwasthat???

got me all excited just watching it...

bob_77903 · 28-05-2011, 14:03

Pure skill...race boat, race crew...

Butler · 28-05-2011, 14:03

Stupid? No

How about just for the shear joy of it?

I might be a bit more concerned if it was at all snotty. Should look at it again but the crew in the whaler didn't look overly concerned.

markpierce · 28-05-2011, 14:40

That's a "killer" bowsprit!

**hummingway** · 28-05-2011, 14:56

The markers were just being deloyed so I don't think the race had started yet.

Practice scaring young girls? Skillful boat handling less skillful decision making.

44'cruisingcat · 28-05-2011, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarafina

heh... racers... whatcha gonna do?

In a non competitive situation totally reprehensible, irresponsible and neglient.

But it clearly was staged. They had those HUGE bumpers and the one was pulled up outta the way and dropped in again after that turn... The person standing in the stern was very calm, the camera was down low for the best camera angle on the maneuver...

in those circumstances...

yeeeeehawwwandhowbitchinwasthat???

got me all excited just watching it...

IF it was staged, OK. If not: DUMB.

Factor · 28-05-2011, 15:03

Clear Breach of Sect 43 the Transport Operations Marine Safety Act if you did that in front of a shipping inspector in this part of the world. Skilful yes, but so is dropping a mono at 150kph in peak hour traffic on a sports bike, and you would get arrested for that.

28-05-2011, 10:52	#2
boatman61 Senior Cruiser Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: PORTUGAL Posts: 30,621 Images: 2	Re: pure skill or pure luck? Nice moves... that guy knows his boat.. and his crew.. __________________ You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say.. "I Love You.. ". Murray Roman. Yet the 'useful idiots' of the West still dance to the beat of the apartheid drums.

28-05-2011, 11:12	#3
thinwater Writing Full-Time Since 2014 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Deale, MD Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34 Posts: 9,603	Re: pure skill or pure luck? Yes, skill... ... and still adolescent behavior not deserving respect. He could have easily hurt others for no reason at all, beyond ego. I'm not impressed. __________________ Gear Testing--Engineering--Sailing https://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/

28-05-2011, 11:22	#4
capngeo Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Key West & Sarasota Boat: Cal 28 "Happy Days" Posts: 4,210 Images: 12	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? I'd say a bit of both! Regardless of the skipper's skill, there are too many variables involved to SAFELY cut it that close. He may know his boat, he may know the sea, but he WAS lucky! __________________ Any fool with a big enough checkbook can BUY a boat; it takes a SPECIAL type of fool to build his own! -Capngeo

28-05-2011, 11:37	#5
Butler Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles Boat: Pearson 281 Posts: 684 Images: 18	Re: pure skill or pure luck? I couldn't agree more Boaty. Love the jockeying for position on the line just for this sort of manuvering. I enjoy anything that floats but consider the noise and havoc were a powerboat to do this. Bring the skill and she will respond with ineffable grace and precision.

28-05-2011, 11:40	#6
Unicorn Dreams Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clear Lake Marine Services - Seabrook, Texas Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43' Posts: 2,359	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? I'd say stupidity . Doesn't take a lot of skill to turn a boat a couple of degrees. Skill is yurning soon enough so a situation like that never happened. What if someone on the small boat panicked and got hurt. __________________ Formerly Santana The winds blow true,The skies stay blue, Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!

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28-05-2011, 13:40	#7
daddle Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,959 Images: 4	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? Looks like a race situation. I wouldn't say it's especially unsafe. Turning to windward is quite reliable.

28-05-2011, 14:00	#9
sarafina Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck Posts: 5,559 Images: 56	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? heh... racers... whatcha gonna do? In a non competitive situation totally reprehensible, irresponsible and neglient. But it clearly was staged. They had those HUGE bumpers and the one was pulled up outta the way and dropped in again after that turn... The person standing in the stern was very calm, the camera was down low for the best camera angle on the maneuver... in those circumstances... yeeeeehawwwandhowbitchinwasthat??? got me all excited just watching it... __________________ Sara ain't what ya do, it's the way that ya do it...

28-05-2011, 14:03	#10
bob_77903 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rockport, Texas Boat: Tartan 41 #68 Posts: 304	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? Pure skill...race boat, race crew...

28-05-2011, 14:03	#11
Butler Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles Boat: Pearson 281 Posts: 684 Images: 18	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? Stupid? No How about just for the shear joy of it? I might be a bit more concerned if it was at all snotty. Should look at it again but the crew in the whaler didn't look overly concerned.

28-05-2011, 14:40	#12
markpierce Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Central California Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot Posts: 3,782	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? That's a "killer" bowsprit!

28-05-2011, 14:56	#13
hummingway Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Gabriola Island & Victoria, British Columbia Boat: Cooper 416 Honeysuckle Posts: 6,933 Images: 5	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? The markers were just being deloyed so I don't think the race had started yet. Practice scaring young girls? Skillful boat handling less skillful decision making. __________________ “We are the universe contemplating itself” - Carl Sagan

28-05-2011, 15:03	#15
Factor Marine Service Provider Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia Boat: Multihulls - cats and Tris Posts: 4,859	Re: Pure Skill or Pure Luck? Clear Breach of Sect 43 the Transport Operations Marine Safety Act if you did that in front of a shipping inspector in this part of the world. Skilful yes, but so is dropping a mono at 150kph in peak hour traffic on a sports bike, and you would get arrested for that.

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