Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-09-2014, 16:35   #1
Registered User
 
Blue Crab's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: Cal 29
Posts: 3,882
Pumpout Facilities

An interesting tidbit. My little marina on the ICW in North Carolina has a portable pumpout that the diaphram has worn and checked and doesn't have enough suction to suck up the soup. Spoke to a trawler boater today who came in to use the pumpout. I started it for him and he was disgusted when he found that it didn't actually work. The boatless marina honchos haven't taken my word for it for the last month. I don't need it myself as a composter but I know what will happen and is doubtless happening when boaters can't find a facility.

Point is tho, the boater had been unable to find a working pumpout on his way south from Annapolis. I don't think this bodes well for the future.
__________________

__________________
Blue Crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 17:01   #2
cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Charleston, SC
Boat: Camano Troll
Posts: 4,669
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Report it to the marina management.
__________________

__________________
rwidman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 17:31   #3
Registered User
 
Stu Jackson's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 6,387
Re: Pumpout Facilities

The idiocy that promotes holding tanks without free pumpouts is madness.
__________________
Stu Jackson
Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Cowichan Bay, BC, (Maple Bay Marina) SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
Stu Jackson is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 22:15   #4
Registered User
 
Orion Jim's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Noank, Ct. USA
Boat: Cape Dory 31
Posts: 1,075
Images: 6
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Sounds to me like someone promoting composting
__________________
Orion Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 22:21   #5
Registered User
 
markpierce's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,413
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Most marinas in the San Francisco estuary (bay and delta) have free pumpouts. Nevertheless, I have a private company pump out the blackwater tank once a month. They use a small, open boat with tank, pump and hose.
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 00:15   #6
Senior Cruiser
 
Kenomac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere in the Adriatic Sea
Boat: Oyster 53 Cutter
Posts: 8,511
Re: Pumpout Facilities

What's a pump out station?
__________________
Kenomac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 06:28   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2012
Boat: Tayana 58 DS
Posts: 661
Re: Pumpout Facilities

After struggling with a barely working pump-out last weekend, I swore I would just head out to sea the next time it needed emptying. I'm beyond the 3 miles line almost every week, but I suspect most of the boats in the harbor are not.

To make matters worse, there was a powerboat tied up to the (temporary) pump-out dock for an hour while they went ashore to get lunch. To wait so long and work so hard for such little joy...
__________________
accomplice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 08:23   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
Boat: Makela,Ingrid38,Idora
Posts: 1,973
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Oh! The humanity! Crab, you are in a fine mess there. The floaters will be floating and your sea strainer will be full of TP. I would tell you to evacuate and head south but Florida won't let you anchor and Carolina is still recovering from dishonest Frenchmen who abandoned their boat in the Bahamas. Getting the pump out fixed will be a dirty job but someone has to do it. Its the only answer.
__________________
IdoraKeeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 08:48   #9
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: daytona beach florida
Boat: csy 37
Posts: 2,844
Images: 1
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Florida won't let you anchor? Florida may be the easiest state to anchor in!
__________________
Take two at low eight
onestepcsy37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 11:03   #10
Registered User
 
Blue Crab's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: Cal 29
Posts: 3,882
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Jim Walsh Re: Pumpout Facilities
Sounds to me like someone promoting composting

Nah, I could not care less what the rest of the world does. I choose not to dump poop where I swim. My point was that the guy traveled from Annapolis to Oriental without finding a working pumpout. That's a pretty good piece for those of you not scoring at home, or live in Montana.

I can see how marina dockhands are loathe to do the pumpout, and likely to say it's busted when it's not. And the gods know it should always be free. Wonder how many boats dumped their tanks illegally over the Labor Day Weekend knowing there was no working pumpouts within range. Surely thousands.

rwidman Re: Pumpout Facilities
Report it to the marina management.

Good one Cap! Never woulda thought of that. Thank you.
__________________
Blue Crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 11:28   #11
Writing Full-Time Since 2014
 
thinwater's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 4,336
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Just chatter.

There are many working pump-outs in that range of the Bay. Many are free if you buy fuel, and we were talking about a trawler. There are 2 in Herring bay alone, one of which is free. Cape Charles has a good one. Several in Solomons Island. He didn't try or didn't keep track. I've never been in a signifigant harbor on the Chesapeake that did not have one.

A small charge doesn't bother me, if it keeps the equipment in good repair. <$5. That said, some marinas have gone to free just for the good PR. And their systems are better than the state systems!
__________________
Gear Testing--Engineering--Sailing

Writing full-time since 2014.
Bookstore:http://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/20...ook-store.html
thinwater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 13:55   #12
cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Charleston, SC
Boat: Camano Troll
Posts: 4,669
Re: Pumpout Facilities

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Crab View Post
..........
rwidman Re: Pumpout Facilities
Report it to the marina management.

Good one Cap! Never woulda thought of that. Thank you.
Sometimes management isn't aware of a problem until someone reports it to them. Sometimes you have to report it more than once because they might have had something else on their mind at the time.
__________________
rwidman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 17:41   #13
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 17,048
Pumpout Facilities

So far, knock on wood I've been from Daytona FL to the Gulf Coast of Fl and have always been able to find a pump out, easily. Good thing too because the only way I can empty my black water tank is through the deck fitting.
Now of course that's just Fl, but I can assure you many boats do not pump out. There is a house boat on my dock with a live aboard couple in it. I've never seen it move and find it hard to believe that they always walk the dock and down the road to the marina bathroom, and this is in a marina with an outstanding pump out, and its free too.
__________________
a64pilot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 19:44   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Boat: Tayana 37
Posts: 115
The dude must not have been trying too hard. I just went through that stretch of water. Got a free one at the town station in Solomons, another at the state marina in crisfield, and another free one at the city dock in Portsmouth. And I imagine there were dozens (hundreds?) of other options.
__________________
Helbent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2014, 11:15   #15
Registered User
 
CaptTom's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Southern Maine
Boat: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
Posts: 976
Re: Pumpout Facilities

My understanding is that, in order to be listed as a "no discharge zone", the state or region must first prove that there are sufficient pump-out facilities such that this won't cause a hardship to boaters.

I've also heard that, before the NDZ is established, money is frequently available to install new pump-out stations to meet this requirement.

However, once the NDZ is in place, nobody seems to check that those facilities are still available to the boating public, and there's no money available to maintain or staff them.

Most marinas accept the free equipment. But it's not their core business, and many avoid putting it in a prime location at their facility. Others see no value in maintaining it, or even having staff leave their other duties to help boaters pump out. Over time they break down or pieces get "lost" or forgotten. Even the working ones are sometimes only offered to paying fuel customers.
__________________

__________________
CaptTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Smaller Pumpout Hose Diameter ? akio.kanemoto Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 3 10-11-2010 19:10
Pumpout Cost Limits donradcliffe Liveaboard's Forum 16 07-08-2010 20:08
HELP - Holding Tank won't Pumpout - Completely B00ST Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 6 04-08-2008 12:27
Holding Tank Pumpout marc Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 16 19-07-2008 02:32



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:23.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.