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Old 07-07-2013, 21:37   #16
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Connie and I have stopprd there twice, for repairs. Once on a delivery, and once on our own boat. Great place to vist, even if your spanish is bad ! a few good places to eat. Nice folks! all around we were suprised how glad they were to see americans! sorts thought with the way we have treated them over the years, they might be a little more upset with our country! Of course if ya have repairs, you can get permission to stop there for as long as it takes to get it fixed ! In this case ya need to have bill copys to show you needed repairs!! but thats not a problem !! Anyway we sure enjoyed our trips there !!
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There are perfectly legal ways to travel to Cuba from the US. My friend just returned from his second trip in two years last week. He flew in as he is not a boater.

The Cuban people are extremely hospitable and quite welcoming of foreigners. Most tourists never leave the cities and miss the true flavor of the country. Caradow is quite accurate in his posts describing the situation.

I am hoping to tag along with my friend next year.
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There are perfectly legal ways to travel to Cuba from the US. My friend just returned from his second trip in two years last week. He flew in as he is not a boater.

The Cuban people are extremely hospitable and quite welcoming of foreigners. Most tourists never leave the cities and miss the true flavor of the country. Caradow is quite accurate in his posts describing the situation.

I am hoping to tag along with my friend next year.
What is your friend's basis? There are very specific reasons required to legally go. .. tourism isn't one. I'd like to know if he had found a loophole. ... As I might be willing to exploit the same!
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I find it rather sad that some of the posts are "excited" about going to Cuba simply to "party with young girls".
As if these young girls are simply waiting to party with 30-60+ y/o men. And for some reason these girls are sexually aroused by their presence.
You guys need to get a life. Not that I am a prude or trying to stand in the way of the oldest profession in the world but one has to asks themselves why these types simply can't they find "love" in their own cities and towns. They have to go to a foreign country for it?
Not for once thinking that these young girls are dirt poor and probably already have a child (or two) and are only trying to survive in a repressed society. Living in a day to day situation when it difficult to decide whether today I am going to buy milk and not food to feed my family. Maybe tomorrow I can buy food.
Sex is pervasive in Cuba, from the "young girls" to the old men selling Viagra on the street corners.
I guess on a positive note maybe a few more children will get to eat because their mothers sell their bodies.
Caradow-- I was just making a joke off Blue Crab's post. Sheesh! What gives? No sense of of humor today?
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Oh yeah I meant to say that too. Lighten up Sheeesh we're not talking about buying a slave from Southeast Asia.
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What is your friend's basis? There are very specific reasons required to legally go. .. tourism isn't one. I'd like to know if he had found a loophole. ... As I might be willing to exploit the same!
Humanitarian charity mission work.

Edit: Direct flights are not allowed so fly to Mexico or Central America is the first and last leg of your flight itinerary.
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Finally, would we encounter any problems returning to the US—we are permanent residents?


This may present the most issues- as a fellow green card holder, my understanding is that we have to follow the same rules as citizens unless we wish to give up our card- ie: filing taxes.
Before I lived here- whatever if a US border guard mentioned a Cuba stamp in my passport, now....I would be asking them not to stamp it..(like they do for certain passport holders ).. fine if you are flying through somewhere, but coming back in a boat .

'Where were you the last three weeks?'...
'"UHH ...over there...but only on the water...."

Just can't see that flying..

Of course depends on the agent, the day, etc..
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May 03, 2013 COUNTRY DESCRIPTION: Cuba is an authoritarian state that routinely employs repressive methods against internal dissent and monitors and responds to perceived threats to its authority. These methods include intense physical and electronic surveillance, as well as detention and interrogation of both Cuban citizens and foreign visitors. U.S. citizens visiting Cuba should be aware that any on-island activities could be subject to surveillance, and their contacts with Cuban citizens monitored closely. Human rights conditions in Cuba remain poor, as the Cuban government limits fundamental freedoms, including freedom of expression and peaceful assembly. The United States does not have diplomatic relations with Cuba, but Cuba generally welcomes U.S. citizen travelers and U.S. citizens are generally well received. The United States Government provides consular and other services through the U.S. Interests Section in Havana (USINT), but U.S. diplomats are not allowed to travel freely outside the capital and may be prevented from providing assistance outside Havana. USINT operates under the legal protection of the Swiss government but is not co-located with the Swiss Embassy. Read the Department of State Fact Sheet on U.S. Relations with Cuba for additional information.
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SMART TRAVELER ENROLLMENT PROGRAM (STEP) / U.S. INTERESTS SECTION LOCATION: USINT represents U.S. citizens and the U.S. Government in Cuba, and operates under the legal protection of the Swiss government. The Interests Section staff provides the full range of consular services to U.S. citizens in Havana. The Cuban government limits travel of USINT staff outside of Havana, so there may be limits to the services provided outside the capital. U.S. citizens who travel to Cuba are encouraged to contact and register with USINT's American Citizen Services unit. If you are traveling to Cuba, please inform USINT. If you enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP), USINT can keep you up-to-date with important safety and security announcements. Enrolling will also help your friends and family contact you in an emergency.
Our Smart Traveler app, available through iTunes and the Android market, also provides easy access to updated official country information, travel alerts, travel warnings, maps, and USINT’s location. Travelers can also set up e-itineraries to keep track of arrival and departure dates and make notes about upcoming trips.
There is no access to the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay from within Cuba. The U.S. Embassy in Kingston, Jamaica, handles consular issues for Guantanamo Bay. For further information on Guantanamo Bay, please contact the U.S. Embassy in Kingston by telephone at (876) 929-5374.
The U.S. Interests Section is located in Havana at Calzada between L and M Streets, Vedado; telephone number (537) 839-4100. Hours are Monday through Thursday, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., and Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. For emergency assistance after hours and on weekends, individuals should call (537) 839-4100 and select the option to speak with the operator. Routine information is available through the American Citizen Services unit of the U.S. Interests Section.
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Although Cuba may issue visas upon arrival to U.S. citizens, all travelers to Cuba, including religious workers, should contact the Cuban Interests Section in Washington to have the appropriate type of visa ahead of time and, if required, specific authorization from Cuban authorities. Cuba requires visitors to have non-U.S. medical insurance, and sells a temporary policy to those who do not have it. Questions about this insurance requirement should be directed to the Cuban Interests Section. Some HIV/AIDS entry restrictions exist for visitors to and foreign residents of Cuba. Cuban authorities do not demand HIV tests of travelers to Cuba, with the exception of foreign students on scholarships. The Cuban authorities accept the results of HIV tests conducted by labs in the United States. Please verify this information with the Cuban Interests Section before traveling.
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If you are not allowed to make the trip, and you get caught making it, that could be grounds to revoke the residency and have you deported. With stakes that high, I'd want a reply IN WRITING from OFAC before making the trip.
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We've had a bunch of threads on this and last we heard you could finesse a church affiliation or some educational type grant type thing but that was pretty much it. The key was legal entry/exit. I doubt your gig is OK.
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Hey, and Mr. Buzzkill: May yer holding tank stop holding.
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Yep three posts in a row! I've seen how it's done. I be cool.
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Would you please email me directly too? New to this forum but have huge interest in Cuba also.
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I find it rather sad that some of the posts are "excited" about going to Cuba simply to "party with young girls".
As if these young girls are simply waiting to party with 30-60+ y/o men. And for some reason these girls are sexually aroused by their presence.
You guys need to get a life. Not that I am a prude or trying to stand in the way of the oldest profession in the world but one has to asks themselves why these types simply can't they find "love" in their own cities and towns. They have to go to a foreign country for it?
Not for once thinking that these young girls are dirt poor and probably already have a child (or two) and are only trying to survive in a repressed society. Living in a day to day situation when it difficult to decide whether today I am going to buy milk and not food to feed my family. Maybe tomorrow I can buy food.
Sex is pervasive in Cuba, from the "young girls" to the old men selling Viagra on the street corners.
I guess on a positive note maybe a few more children will get to eat because their mothers sell their bodies.
Also as far as the other posts having to do with waiting "until it is legal" to go to Cuba is also unfortunate. Now is when they need people to come. On the other hand when it does open up you will not have far to go to grab a "Big Mac" because like so many other places they will be available on every corner. Unfortunately the very essence that makes Cuba, Cuba will be gone forever.
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I read all the responses to my initial post, including those which contribute absolutely nothing to the question. I have also PM’d a couple of respondents who have been most helpful, and for which I thank them.
The long and the short of it—bearing in mind our personal situation and the political impasse—is that we have decided not to cruise Cuba this time.
Some of the reasons are as follows:
RicknSue’s point is very valid for Green Card holders, and since we are due for renewal next year, we don't want to risk any issues.
Hellowsailor’s list was very enlightening, even though probably written by anti Cuba officials somewhere in Washington. For instance, I didn’t know Cuba requires a visitor to have none-American health insurance, or you have to buy it there—no mention of how much, or how effective in the event of a need.
I also didn’t know you couldn’t use US Dollars in Cuba, and obliged to change what you have into Cuban currency—with a 10% surcharge for the government. I’m not doing that in any country, least of all one which allows it’s citizens and infrastructure to fester like the pictures and stories one hears about Cuba.
We have visited a few “third world” countries in our previous boats, and security can be a bit fractious, from leaving the boat unattended at anchor, to walking at night from a bar—and everything in between. Passing quickly through might be okay, but on a voluntary cruise it’s not worth the worry.
I’m sure individual Cubans are no different for anyone else, and love to meet foreigners and learn about other lands and people, etc. But I don’t want to be looking over my shoulder in any conversation I might have with a local, for fear he or someone might be an agent provocateur, or who notices I have a boat, flying the British flag, and very capable of sailing the short distance between Cuba and the US?
English friends went to Cuba last year, but on a package tour. They had a great time and went on many guided tours inland. But they never met any locals, and were always happy to return to the hotel in the evening. I’m afraid that says a lot to me about the state of things in Cuba.
It’s too bad things can’t be different between the US and Cuba, because the best way to get rid of communism or authoritarianism is to show the people what not being under the heel is like. But that’s a question I don’t wish to get into.
Thanks again to everyone. I hope the conversation might have helped someone else as well.
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I made the trip in spring of 2013 from key west to Havana. Then counterclockwise around Cuba to Santiago de Cuba. Then over to the DR where I left the boat on the hard. My friend has a blog on

http://jimdriftwood.blogspot.com/201...ojito.html?m=1

Cuba is very safe. I brought Canadian money. No problems exchanging it. Very fun time. I used digital raster charts and they were right on the money. Used my Google nexus 7 to do most of the navigation. Spent about two months there. Any questions please ask.
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