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Old 21-11-2016, 12:16   #406
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Pasted directly from the internet, so we know validity is suspect at best... But food for thought...

How many of these Muslims are "Jihadis?"

This is a tricky question. See also "Moderate" Muslim.

Estimates average around 7% of the worlds Islamic population are engaged in some active form of terror activity, in some sort of active support, planning or implementing mode. 7% seems like a relatively small proportion. However, assuming a moderate estimate of 1.5 billion Muslims, even 5% would be what?

5% of 1.5 billion = "only" 75 million (75,000,000) are actively involved in some phase of violent Jihad.

Surveys have shown that an average of 25% of the Islamic population supports or condone some form of violent jihad. And these are just the ones who admit to it.

25% of 1.5 billion = "only" 375 million (375,000,000)
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Yeah seriously, what's the source

You can't just say 'estimates average' and 'surveys have shown'

I estimate that I make the best macaroni and cheese on the planet, backed up by a survey of myself, my neighbour and his dog.
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It looks like they are getting more professional backing to attack bulk carriers

https://gcaptain.com/capesize-bulk-c...Captain.com%29
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Hi Ann, I also studied Calhoun and Skinner, so I agree that in the experiments with rats. massive overcrowding can cause deviant behavior.

Similar conditions exist in crowded jails, so it can be argued that the same may apply to humans.

What is reassuring about the Philippines is that there is a deep ingrained matriarchal influence on social ethics ...aimed to diffuse tensions amongst the males. The Catholic church reinforces it also, in their own intimidating way.

So Filipinos are actually really good at turning conflicts into humor, to save the face of others....(They call it "Hiyya")

Other countries, less conditioned to social correctness, will probably explode in a much more violent way if the whole world were to slide into social turmoil as millennialism becomes the problem rather than the solution.

Times, they are a changing, so I would watch where I cruise in the Philippines, but not be afraid of a mostly friendly people!
Excellent points. As someone who has also dabbled in the social sciences, I found your comments about "matriarchal influences" really interesting. I would be interested in knowing where you found such references.

I have often become a bit irked by the occasional Filippino wise crack, but I generally smile and make a relatively harmless wise crack myself. Then, everybody laughs and goes about their business. Definitely the way to handle conflict in this neck of the woods, given, of course that it is the relatively harmless type. Great post.
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?

Philippine militants killed two Canadian hostages (Ridsdel and Hall). The victims’ families wonder why our government couldn’t do more to stop it.
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Philippine militants killed two Canadian hostages (Ridsdel and Hall). The victims’ families wonder why our government couldn’t do more to stop it.
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Not sure what your intent is with this posting, since, in a threaded view, yours is a response to my post just above. Perhaps the placement of your response was an over-sight?

In any case, if you want to know what I think regarding the relevant content on this thread, please check some of the links which I have earlier posted.

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Funny how cruisers think everything revolves around their safety and where they want to travel to risk free in the world.. 'I pay my taxes.. where's the Marines..??'
Grow Up folks.. its all part of life's rich tapestry.. mozzies, sharks, jellies, pirates, blah blah blah..
Or.. stay at home.
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I live in New Orleans. In the French Quarter having shards of glass or razor wire topping the walls are common place. Where ever you have extreme inequality of wealth you are just asking for eventual trouble.
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Philippine militants killed two Canadian hostages (Ridsdel and Hall). The victims’ families wonder why our government couldn’t do more to stop it.
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Then stay home. You leave the borders of the supposed safety of the U.S. you take your chances.
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Funny how cruisers think everything revolves around their safety and where they want to travel to risk free in the world.. 'I pay my taxes.. where's the Marines..??'
Grow Up folks.. its all part of life's rich tapestry.. mozzies, sharks, jellies, pirates, blah blah blah..
Or.. stay at home.
Well said!
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Not sure what your intent is with this posting,...
My intent was to provide new background information to the story.
Has nothing to do with you or your thoughts.
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Has nothing to do with you or your thoughts.
Gord,

Thanks for posting that link.

I read that article, which I found informative and telling another side of the story we have not seen covered in this thread.

The human side of the story is something we should not forget, when discussing things like boats and politics. Actions or inactions of governments can and do affect people, including cruisers.

Thanks again!
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I live in New Orleans. In the French Quarter having shards of glass or razor wire topping the walls are common place. Where ever you have extreme inequality of wealth you are just asking for eventual trouble.
Some of us would rather say, wherever you have Muslims, you are asking for trouble. They are really just executing what their holy book prescribes.

The pirate attacks in the Philipines are not exactly a result of poverty or inequality either. If anything, the gangs of kidnappers are way more resourceful than average Filipinos ... due to their many years now of success with extracting ransoms.
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Pasted directly from the internet, so we know validity is suspect at best... But food for thought...

How many of these Muslims are "Jihadis?"

This is a tricky question. See also "Moderate" Muslim.

Estimates average around 7% of the worlds Islamic population are engaged in some active form of terror activity, in some sort of active support, planning or implementing mode. 7% seems like a relatively small proportion. However, assuming a moderate estimate of 1.5 billion Muslims, even 5% would be what?

5% of 1.5 billion = "only" 75 million (75,000,000) are actively involved in some phase of violent Jihad.

Surveys have shown that an average of 25% of the Islamic population supports or condone some form of violent jihad. And these are just the ones who admit to it.

25% of 1.5 billion = "only" 375 million (375,000,000)

Has anyone done a survey to see how many 'Blanco's' were/are actively involved in creating these hatreds..???
Seeing as the 'Jihadi' movement did not exist as such pre-70's.. we only had the PLO..
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Some of us would rather say, wherever you have Muslims, you are asking for trouble. They are really just executing what their holy book prescribes.

The pirate attacks in the Philipines are not exactly a result of poverty or inequality either. If anything, the gangs of kidnappers are way more resourceful than average Filipinos ... due to their many years now of success with extracting ransoms.
It simply means that when denying people a means of earning wealth legally exists long enough or when enough barriers or lack of opportunity arise people will always find other ways of generating income. Legal or illegal.
Piracy is just another wealth earning method.
You add the amount of dispossessed people to the whatever % of people that would do it regardless of the economic situation.
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