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28-02-2016, 08:17
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#226
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
If you look at the generic NPA , they are a fairly loose association of discontented thugs who intimidate local businesses and farmers into paying them protection money under the guise of revolutionary tax.
I know of a stubborn elderly Australian developer in Puerto Galera who was kidnapped and held hostage for a few days, by the NPA, because he would not comply and was vocal about it.
They first blew up the Globe telecom cellular tower beside his property as a warning, before finally holding him hostage until his family paid.
Same guys often show up at harvest times, work the fields and take what they need as payment.
Much more numerous than acknowledged by the government, but basically non violent unless challenged.
I am hoping that is the case for our missing sailors and marina manager
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Moral of the story: Your friend was a shitty negotiator. Should have brought in the Philippina wife : )
G2L
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14-03-2016, 20:39
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#227
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
Last week a new video was released along with a one month deadline.
"One of the Canadians appealed in the video to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for help in the matter of ransom."
Here appears to be the official reply.
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THE Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) maintained that no ransom would be paid for the release of three foreign nationals and a Filipino who were abducted in Samal Island in September 2015.
AFP spokesperson Restituto Padilla said they were confident that they will be able to rescue the kidnap victims without having to give in to the Abu Sayyaf group's demand for ransom.
Canadians John Ridsel and Robert Hall, Norwegian Kjartan Sekkingstad, and Hall's girlfriend, Maritess Flor, were abducted by armed men at Ocean View Marina Beach Resort in Samal Island on September 21, 2015.
Padilla said there was an on-going negotiation with the government of the foreigners to put them on safety.
"The policy on no negotiations with kidnappers includes no payment of ransom. We are also working closely with the government of these foreign nationals and to our satisfaction we have been getting the cooperation of all these embassies in country," he said.
Earlier, the Abu Sayyaf posted videos demanding among others a halt to the military operations and their ransom demand.
"These kidnap for ransom groups often increase their demands for a shorter period of time. We believe that the operations we are conducting, is closely getting to them, and we're getting closer to them and hence, they needed to expedite the demand for ransom in order for them to escape from the hands of the law, which is closely catching up," he added.
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Your guess is as good as mine as to what " put them on safety" means. Perhaps pull them out safely?
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15-03-2016, 07:11
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#228
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
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Originally Posted by pbmaise
Last week a new video was released along with a one month deadline.
"One of the Canadians appealed in the video to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for help in the matter of ransom."
Here appears to be the official reply.
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THE Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) maintained that no ransom would be paid for the release of three foreign nationals and a Filipino who were abducted in Samal Island in September 2015.
AFP spokesperson Restituto Padilla said they were confident that they will be able to rescue the kidnap victims without having to give in to the Abu Sayyaf group's demand for ransom.
Canadians John Ridsel and Robert Hall, Norwegian Kjartan Sekkingstad, and Hall's girlfriend, Maritess Flor, were abducted by armed men at Ocean View Marina Beach Resort in Samal Island on September 21, 2015.
Padilla said there was an on-going negotiation with the government of the foreigners to put them on safety.
"The policy on no negotiations with kidnappers includes no payment of ransom. We are also working closely with the government of these foreign nationals and to our satisfaction we have been getting the cooperation of all these embassies in country," he said.
Earlier, the Abu Sayyaf posted videos demanding among others a halt to the military operations and their ransom demand.
"These kidnap for ransom groups often increase their demands for a shorter period of time. We believe that the operations we are conducting, is closely getting to them, and we're getting closer to them and hence, they needed to expedite the demand for ransom in order for them to escape from the hands of the law, which is closely catching up," he added.
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Your guess is as good as mine as to what " put them on safety" means. Perhaps pull them out safely?
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Not to sound too cynical, but we all remember the Alamo. Do we remember the Burnhams?
Let's hope that the current authorities and the Philippine Army do.
G2L
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30-03-2016, 03:58
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#229
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
There has been a new kidnapping with a 50 million peso ransom demand. About 1.4mm USD for the lot.
10 Indonesians are being held.
A barge Anand 12, carrying 7,000 tons of coals and ten crew members was hijacked during their trips from Puting River, South Kalimantan to Batangas, South Philippine.
Batangas is on Luzon so this barge must have been headed North through the Sulu Sea when attacked on March 24, 2016
It seems the crew were aboard a tugboat pulling the barge and the tugboat was found floating empty. It seems odd that the barge was not found.
See:
Military Ready to Rescue Hostages Held by Abu Sayyaf | National | Tempo.Co :: Indonesian News Portal
and.
Indonesia ready to rescue hostages held by Abu Sayyaf - Regional | The Star Online
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30-03-2016, 06:47
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#230
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
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Originally Posted by pbmaise
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Thanks for your post. Appreciate your keeping folks informed of stuff that others of us might miss.
"Alarmists" rule : )
G2L
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30-03-2016, 06:54
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#231
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
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Originally Posted by pbmaise
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Key word "Ready."
Missing Key word "Willing"
Missing Key word "Capable"
Just my two cents.
G2L
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30-03-2016, 17:34
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#232
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
A very slow moving coal barge that makes a predictable run would have been an easy mark. It does represent an attack at sea and is troublesome.
This said, it occurred in an area the Philippine Navy has been trying to keep sailors like us from traveling. Specifically South and West of Mindanao as far as the Malaysian coast.
The attack was near https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawi-Tawi
I do not want to say travel in Malaysian waters along the North East coast of Borneo is dangerous. Specifically there was a rally that went this route and I understand some yachts have been "escorted".
The standard logical rules should apply.
#1 Do not enjoy a remote location long enough that word can get back to ASG so they can plan to come and say hello and offer you an extended stay.
#2 When in port anchor close to patrol boats and civil defense stations.
#3 Make sure you check in and say hi to these patrol boats and stations. Tell them who you are and where you are going.
It is a balance. The benefit of #3 far out weighs the risk someone is a hidden operative hiding in their ranks.
In 2013 I experienced an escort when I traveled from Miri to Palawan. This was not long after the skirmish near Sandakan. The first night after on anchor, we awoke to learn what we thought was a well marked fishing boat was really a patrol boat that decided to sit and watch us. In Brunei waters, two patrol boats escorted me, one fore and one aft. They maintained about 2 nm distance. A single Malaysian boat picked up seamlessly North of Labuan. Of course this may have been coincidental. I saw it as a bit overkill as this route is "safe".
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04-04-2016, 08:47
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#234
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
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Originally Posted by pbmaise
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Good to hear that the Php military/intel community seems to be on the right track these days.
Lets hope they keep up the good work. Have intermarried, Catholic/Muslim relatives in ZC, and they love it there. City of Flowers, an' all ...
Be nice to be able to visit some day.
Thanks for the updates,
G2L
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05-04-2016, 20:57
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#235
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
Update: April 6, 2016
A. Drifting coal barge was found in Malaysian waters. 10 Indonesians still held.
B. Two top commanders rotated out of positions of Filipino forces, a sign of growing frustration.
C. The one month deadline for the ransom for the Samal hostages, at cost P1 billion per head, ($22 million USD ea) is on April 8.
Prayers.
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06-04-2016, 03:40
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#236
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Very Friggin Amnoying ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmaise
Update: April 6, 2016
A. Drifting coal barge was found in Malaysian waters. 10 Indonesians still held.
B. Two top commanders rotated out of positions of Filipino forces, a sign of growing frustration.
C. The one month deadline for the ransom for the Samal hostages, at cost P1 billion per head, ($22 million USD ea) is on April 8.
Prayers.
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Chinese overstepping their bounds on the west. Psuedo-Islamic pirates acting up in the south. Maybe they think we are pre-occupied?
Someone needs an education. And, nobody seems to give a darn.
G2L
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06-04-2016, 03:48
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#237
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
it appears to me the only safe & interesting cruising ground these days in this world is south pacific.
couple of man-eaters to worry about and thats that.
maybe north eu seas, but there also getting hotter by the minute.
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22-04-2016, 20:18
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#238
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
Is the Philippines a new Somalia?
Indonesia advises shipowners to avoid sailing off Philippines over piracy fears.
April 22nd, 2016 14:15 GMT
by Nick Roumpis
Published in PIRACY
Shipowners have been instructed by the Indonesian Navy to avoid sailing around the southern Philippines due to the latest spree of piracy incidents.
The intensity of patrols up to the exclusive economic zone border with the Philippines and Malaysia has been increased, an Indonesian military spokesman told Reuters.
Indonesian top executives have expressed fears that the country could become a “new Somalia”.
A total of 18 seafarers have been kidnapped in three separate attacks on tugboats in Philippine waters.
All of them were conducted by groups suspected of ties to the Abu Sayyaf network, though to be related to terrorism.
Analysts estimate that the busy shipping route along Indonesia’s maritime border with the Philippines carries cargo worth $40bn each year.
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22-04-2016, 20:44
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#239
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Re: Pirate attack Phillipines ?
I sailed southern Philippines last year, would not do it again. Not only did I know two of the guys kidnapped, I also had to use a club to fend off several aggressive fisherman while underway, I've never experienced this before.
That said I would return to other parts of the Philippines as the people are wonderful and its a beautiful country.
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25-04-2016, 13:39
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#240
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