Originally Posted by tropicalescape
I am aware of reality,and "I pity the fool" that enters my "home alone" without a gun, because I (you may not be able to do this unless you too were a NC State wrestling champion that went all the way to state finals 6 years in a row and remained undefeated thru out you scolistic amaturer wrestling , Greco Roman and Freestyle grappling career)will tie them up into a small package and leave them for the powers that be to untie them..I know that 90 % of the folks out there cant or wont fight back and will be prayed upon by bad people, then there are those that will not stand for such a thing come hell or high water
,I am one of those,you may be one of the other and that is your choice,but please dont assume that all are better off going along with the demands of someone that would do them harm,I feel like fighting is a better option than going along peaceably with crazy people,of course maybe you would fell different..Good luck ,your going to need it..
Really I think you fundamentally do not understand the nature of such crimes and the responses to it. It's not about whether I chose to defend myself or not. That's not the issue in carrying a firearm ON A BOAT. At home I have access to firearms including automatic pistols.
Lets break down the type of attacks
(1) opportunistic petty thievery . This is the most common type and exists all over the world . The thief usually tries to act when noone is aboard and almost always does not want confrontation. Typically discovering your presence is sufficient to cause flight.
Summation ; armed response is unnecessary or in fact desirable and its use could subject you to severe sanction in many countries, as you where not specifically threatened.
(2) thievery involving the threat of violence ( or actual violence ). A more rare type , typically confined to certain areas In certain countries. In its aggravated form , the assailants are intent on causing injury , even death .
Summation ; armed response could be useful , However such actions must be 100% successful . Failure to disable the assailants could result in severe retaliation possibly involving family
members. Issues surrounding suprise, preparation time, firearm suitability and mental state of defendant.
(3) Organised Crime , including piracy
, large number of armed assailants , lawless culture etc.
Extremely rare and usually the result of putting yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time. Depending on motives of assailants , death or severe injury is a very likely outcome , especially of any attempt at retaliation is displayed.
Summation ; individual armed response is very unlikely to wield sufficient firepower to overcome assailants and the resulting retaliatory action wil almost certain cause death , typically of all present ( or extreme aggression )
Individual Small arms typically are useless on this scenario , unless significantly greater firepower can be deployed . Boat itself provides little or no protection and is a confining space , or a death trap
So if we can put aside the " ramboesque " stuff that typically comes from US gun advocates . The " I'd take my magnum xuz , loaded with abc round with mah custom grip" stuff, which is a focus on the kit and not the respons modalities.
I'm quite a good shot , I can disable or kill you with a .22. That's not the issue.
The issue is that very few situations on a boat benefit from armed response , especially armed response from a startled, groggy , surprised defendant fumbling to get his personal firearm out of its locker and load it. Not to mention lack of training to deal with such " pseudo combat " situations , ie no muscle memory etc. combined with the risk of loved ones getting injured or killed as the lead flies around
Sometimes , strong brave people surrender as the appropriate form of defence.
Just because I believe firearms are inappropriate on board doesn't make a wimp , no more then you carrying makes you Rambo.
Your own views and many other US style pro gun advocates seem to constantly picture assailants as bumbling gun carry miscreants , who will run at the first sight of your AR-16 with high capacity magazines and fancy optical sights , or that the miscreant is a kind of drug crazed idiot with no purpose other them to rape your wife and who should be gunned down like road kill.
This picture of crazed assailants may suit the politics of the NRA , but in reality, n the vast vast majority of cruising grounds its an extremely unusual and unlikely occurrence.
Do you carry spares for every event , no matter how rare , of course not , the boat would sink under the weight of parts
. You take a view and bring common fault parts
and accept that in certain circumstances you will have to rely on others .
onboard are in the same category , unnecessary carriage, unreliable outcome , and unbearable consequences.
That's before we address any local legal