Ok, I'll attempt to rescue
this thread before it devolves too much. As with regular conversation it's best to steer clear of some topics unless all parties involved are keen to discuss them.
Originally Posted by Ex-Calif
The final part of you plan Immigrating to USA. Have you investigated the immigration requirements? I don't think it is as easy as showing up...
In our case it should be close to being that easy. Naomi has a US passport, her mother being a Minnesotan. On that topic, we really are from luckyville. I hold a French passport through my father. Not bad for 2 fully fledged kiwis.
but, back to topic.
Originally Posted by Dsanduril
I'm not so sure as others that NZ isn't a good place to find a boat, would take some investigation. In another month or two cruisers from all over the world will be gathering in the Bay of Islands to get away from the South Pacific
typhoon season. More than a few of them will be disillusioned/done/tired/whatever. Some of their boats will be fully kitted out for cruising, having made it from the US and Europe
Wouldn't it be nice to live around the Bay of Islands. This seasonal pattern is good information unfortunately we currently live in Christchurch and I don't know much about popular sailing areas in NZ but the east coast
of the South Island must surely be some of the least frequented. However in Christchurch we have 1 marina and a couple of yacht clubs which we will look into for information about the local sailing scene. We will be in Auckland
for a few weeks around christmas
over which will be a good chance to look at a few boats. Also we may be heading further up north (closer to the Bay of Islands) over this time as well so we will try to run into a few cruisers. We are still keen to buy first instead of crewing but open to the idea.
But this area is where our toughest questions lie. Anytime away from Christchurch, we are 99% sure that christchurch is not the place to buy, is time and money
away from our income
spent on buying
a boat, fixing what needs to be fixed, getting the boat ready for sailing extended periods, learning
to sail our boat. Obviously the goal is to narrow down this period as much as possible so we can get on with sailing. I guess this is getting a bit too specific for an international forum, these are our own decisions to make and there a various pros and cons for whatever option we choose. I'll go through our current
thoughts but i'm not expecting responses to all, if any, of my babbling.
If we were to buy in NZ we have the opportunity to move up to Auckland
and stay with our families while buying
and fitting a boat. Also Naomi's family
would be a great resource for accomplishing this. On the other hand, boats are more expensive here and we are a bit daunted by making a difficult voyage away from NZ as one of our first. If we can manage that hurdle however the south pacific
and south east asia are some of the cheaper cruising grounds (and not the least beautiful either).
The other option is to buy overseas. Florida
was my first thought. I'm confident we could fly there and stay up to a month and still afford to buy a boat of similar quality as we would in NZ. With this option we could sail Caribbean
and central america
(and south america
?). How expensive is the Caribbean
compared to south pacific?
We could look into other places Thailand
, Singapore, Australia
, Somewhere in the Mediterranian seem like good candidates.
It seems many of you advise starting with crew work and while i agree with all the reasons for heading down this track something holds me back, probably the the limited time we have and/or the lack of control. We will pursue this course though because if we manage to find right opportunity to get on a boat and help crew a substantial crossing it will be extremely beneficial.
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
Also worth having a look at the Cruising Equipment
thread / list in my sig - the collected wisdom of CF
Already have this link bookmarked. I've just skimmed over it but looks like it will be very handy when looking at boats.
Originally Posted by barnakiel
If you have "1/10" (read: next to nill?) experience with sailing, then why invest your (I guess) hard earned money and (priceless?) time into something you know so little about?
Why not go straight for your long term target - settle down and have children
In three years your wife will be 31 and if you want 'a few' little ones then it will be actually pretty late to start.
Be a young parent before you become an old cruiser!
Not sure what to say, we have our reasons and whatever choice we make will be because it feels right.
Thanks again for all the advice to help us get started and on the right train of thought.