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Old 24-10-2011, 08:37   #1
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One Way to 'Do the Dream'

So in September my brother announces that he is leaving his current employ - he has worked on very large Australian cattle stations - has found a ferro boat in Phuket and is gonna chuck in and go sailing.

What! He's crazy, right? Well, I run over to Phuket and see the boat for him before he invests in planning a purchase trip and all that stuff. She is a 53 foot Hartley (Coral Sea model?) - and is a in really good nick. She is also a tank and is a gaff rigged cutter displacing around 23,500lbs. I am thinking that this might not be so crazy an idea if he stays around Phuket and Langkawi waters for a few months learning to sail it. His original plan was to buy it and head immediately back to Oz by the most expedient passage. I talked him down from this ledge.

Anyway, fast forward a month or so. I just got back from three days in Phuket. He and his wife arrived, we spent a couple of long days talking about the boat, the plans, sailing, catching up (we also hadn't seen each other in a scary long time), and made a trip to the boat, the Rolly Tasker sail loft, a couple of chandlers (I wanted him to know how much stuff costs - LOL) and finally a day on the boat looking around.

That was the bad part - They fell in love and of course there is no turning back. Then of all things we moved the boat to another marina in prep for the survey. We motored out of the channel and then got all the sails up. Quite really old sails BTW - hence the visit to Rolly Tasker.

If he wasn't done in by sundowners just sitting on the hook this 5 hour sail was his undoing. He's in for the long haul. It was probably a done deal anyway as he'd already closed up everything back in Oz, and they are ready to move aboard.

He is going to stay in Phuket, Langkawi, Singapore for a few months. 4 day survey starts tomorrow, a couple of known jobs to do while hauled out (anti-foul, cutlass bearing, anodes) and then a trip to Langkawi to do the title transfer. From Langkawi he will sail back to Phuket. The current owner will be along for both passages which is great for learning the systems and get some time with an experienced sailor.

The boat was laid up in the UK 15 years ago. She has 3 trans-atlantics (one solo handed), an east coast to Caribbean cruise. Followed by panama to south pacific to Australia passage a couple of years later. She has spent the last 2 years in the south pacific and Asia. She is very experienced lady and has an excellent inventory of equipment on-board. She is basically a sail away live-aboard. The owner is a Brit and a great guy - I wouldn't be surprised of some of our members recognize Alethea Ann.

I am so jealous of my oldest brother right now, but the good news is by convincing him to stay in Asia I will have plenty of chances to visit him on passages in his new home - Whoo hoo!
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Old 24-10-2011, 08:47   #2
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Re: One Way to "Do the Dream"

oh, you pooor guy... sailing bug, and bitten in the area of siblinghood...
i love her old sails.. she looks like a good boat-- ferro isnt allbad--some call em parking lots-- but they can sail!!! and--OMG!! the folks look actually HAPPY to have discovered this money pit situation!!!

awesome!!! have fun and smooth sailing--is good to have siblings to take the stress of huge boat ownership off you!!!--lucky boy!!!!!! i got elected in my family, as i am oldest..LOL..is my job to test things like this to see if it works and i dont die in process...goood work having your brother do that for ye!!!! AND in keeping him close in locale to you!!!!
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Re: One Way to "Do the Dream"

Great story! Looks like a great boat!
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Re: One Way to "Do the Dream"

Thats so cool...I'm happy for him and for you.
23,500 Lbs is very light for a 53fter...is that a typo?
She looks very fresh in the pictures with the exception of the sail.
Note to self: don't patch white sails with black patches..
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oh, you pooor guy... sailing bug, and bitten in the area of siblinghood...
i love her old sails.. she looks like a good boat-- ferro isnt allbad--some call em parking lots-- but they can sail!!! and--OMG!! the folks look actually HAPPY to have discovered this money pit situation!!!
Thanks Zee - The main's gotta be done done now. The jib and staysail aren't pretty but they got a few miles left. Tasker will do the main for about $2,000 - My brother didn't start cryin' so maybe he'll make a cruiser yet - LOL...

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awesome!!! have fun and smooth sailing--is good to have siblings to take the stress of huge boat ownership off you!!!--lucky boy!!!!!!
Well I still got my Relax Lah! but size does matter - Ha...

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i got elected in my family, as i am oldest..LOL..is my job to test things like this to see if it works and i dont die in process...goood work having your brother do that for ye!!!! AND in keeping him close in locale to you!!!!
We all die. Dying on a boat is just way cooler than a heart attack in a cubicle!

Keeping him local was a brilliant move on my part - LOL...

Now I gotta convince him to join CF and tap in to all the brain power here. He is already pretty good at stealing WiFi so he definitely has the cruiser genes...
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Re: One Way to "Do the Dream"

Once you`re hooked that the end of the story!! She should really fly, 53 feet and 23,500 lbs.
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Re: One Way to "Do the Dream"

ex calif----yes, by all means --he fits in here soooo good-- and sounds like he has the perfect mentality-- gawds know he has the smile of the smitten!!!! he should save all sails deemed un-sail-able for covers and wind scoops.

you did reallly good keeping him in range of a cool evening dinner cruise--
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Thats so cool...I'm happy for him and for you.
23,500 Lbs is very light for a 53fter...is that a typo?
She looks very fresh in the pictures with the exception of the sail.
Note to self: don't patch white sails with black patches..
Good catch - The boat is basically one owner and was a family enterprise with a few modifications. They built a "back porch" that is about a meter long and squared off. The bow sprit is about 3 meters.

And of course they built this incredible pilot house. It is solid except the sides which are sunbrella and clear panels. You can sail completely inside and away from the weather. foresail winches are inside and the mainsail sheet is just outside the port door.

I reckon she is a modified 41-43 footer. Inside she looks and feels like one. Interestingly they modified the sprit to fold up and have an ingeneous sytem for tilting the mast.

The sprit fold helps on berthing and panama canal charges (shortening the boat by about 9 feet) and the mast tipping apparently has been used to get under bridges.

There is a bunch of cool engineering like that. The owner is a commercial pilot and marine engineer.
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Sounds like they've got a truly unique boat ...sound wonderful.
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Once you`re hooked that the end of the story!! She should really fly, 53 feet and 23,500 lbs.
See my note to James - 53 foot is probably a misnomer.

The main is about 350 sq/ft square rig (we measured this at Rolly Tasker) and the foresails are probably another 400-450 sq/ft (total guess). She is not spritely. We had about 5-7 knots of wind and were meandering along at about 2-3 knots.

She also ain't a pointer. Maybe with a new mainsail we'll get her higher but I reckon we got 40 degrees off the wind. But hey, real gentlemen don't sail to weather, right?

She was also originally designed to be a ketch rig. The owner says the mizzen didn't do much except add complexity so they took it off when they built the pilot house.

I haven't seen it but she also has a downwind square sail. The built a yard and hang this thing off the mast after dropping everything else. It oughta look cool - think pirate ship - and he says it really helps donwwind as the standard rig is useless after around 150 degrees downwind.
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She also ain't a pointer. Maybe with a new mainsail we'll get her higher but I reckon we got 40 degrees off the wind. But hey, real gentlemen don't sail to weather, right?
Maybe?

I know absolutely nothing about real gentlemen, but would suggest that if you put that many patches on the main of a Farr 40, it would no longer be able to point either.

Yes, my friend, I'm going to have to agree that a new main will get her higher.
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Re: One Way to "Do the Dream"

Is "Phuket" pronounced the way I think it ought to? If so, icing on proverbial cake.
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Maybe?

I know absolutely nothing about real gentlemen, but would suggest that if you put that many patches on the main of a Farr 40, it would no longer be able to point either.

Yes, my friend, I'm going to have to agree that a new main will get her higher.
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Is "Phuket" pronounced the way I think it ought to? If so, icing on proverbial cake.
I pronounce it foo-Ket some pronounce it poo-Ket the third way rhymes with bucket but that can't be right...

Here are a couple of more snaps from my first trip. She has a face only a brother could love - LOL...
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Yep...she wont be winning any beauty pageants...but that's not the point is it.
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Re: One Way to 'Do the Dream'

I had a look at the listing of Hartley designs and didn't see any "Coral Seas".

Closest that I could see was the Royal Suva 52

Maybe one way to determine which design it is is to find out the beam. Builders tended to lengthen their hulls as it was an easy mod. that the designers sometimes approved. However the frames were usually set up from full sized patterns, so this part is very dificult to change.
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