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Old 03-05-2016, 09:10   #16
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Re: Onboard Dedicated Workshop a Good Idea?

It depends on the size of the boat and the nature of the voyage. If I was solo on a 26 footer in North America, just coasting, a toolbox and a spares box would suffice. We are on a steel 41 footer planning a circ, however, and a forepeak workshop is nearly essential, given that I almost certainly will have to mill and fabricate pieces as we go and because I have the room as we'll just be three people.

See here for my logic and for the range of alternatives you may consider:

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Now, the original owner of my custom boat was thinking ahead and wanted a collision bulkhead to make a way to have a catastrophic collision not end in a sinking. The penalty is the loss of a V-berth and a place to stick guests. We determined that guests were going to be rare-ish, and that in the tropics, bedding down on deck was not a hardship, whereas the absence of a place to do drilling that didn't involve the saloon table or the deck in rain would be. Your mileage, tool collection and skill set may vary, but I think I can say even before our own departure that if you can fix things or replace things or carry some less common tools and spares, you will be increasingly popular in the cruising community.

But you'll need an inverter and/or a Honda 2000 to power the pro grade tools. Very few 12 VDC tools are actually useful.
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Re: Onboard Dedicated Workshop a Good Idea?

We have a midship cabin originally with 2 berths [over-under] that was converted to a workshop/laundry room by the previous owners. It was done in a way that it could be returned to its original configuration if future owners preferred the extra sleeping cabin...

It is very handy to have a small workbench, vice, etc. for projects.

It is also the room with the crawl-in access to the engine room for general maintenance [drive belts, checking/ topping/ changing fluids and their levels, water maker control panel, etc.] so it facilitates working on mechanical parts without having to carry them through the living areas of the boat.

I like having a place to keep projects out of the main living spaces when possible. I think it is also good to be able to revert it back to a bunk cabin, and very nice to be able to close the door on work in process...

For what its worth...

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Re: Onboard Dedicated Workshop a Good Idea?

Note how Skip Novak, who's been a professional sailor all of his life, to include skippering multiple RTW races, dotes on his workshop & vise.



If you've got the room for a work bench, put one in. As, for example, some 35' - 40' boats have multiple HUGE closets, & or two heads. And either piece of "real estate" is a prime spot for being converted into a workshop or work bench.
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One issue with a forward cabin refit as a workshop on a cat is the amount of weight that collection of tools can add up to. Leave the NC machine at home.
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One issue with a forward cabin refit as a workshop on a cat is the amount of weight that collection of tools can add up to. Leave the NC machine at home.
You can always go "low tech NC", via a milling vise for your drill press. Plus a bench mounted disc sander, or your belt sander clamped into the vise.
I've rebuilt whole boats with less tools. But that combo is damned handy.

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I want one- $2600 sounds like a pretty cool deal. You could get rid of all the weight from your tools and just use this. Need a 10mm wrench, cut one out
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But if you have a workshop will things NOT start breaking down more?

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I had a standup engine room in my 42 ft LOD sailboat. It had tool bins, a vise and spare parts under the floor boards. The engine was fully exposed so it could easily be checked and serviced. A center cockpit gave me the headroom. I loved it. Dropping things in the bilge was an occasional problem as was the mess you made sawing or threading. It was certainly worth it to be able to easily access the engine,batteries, electrical panel, and most of the steering gear.

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I haven't got to the description of the tools yet, but in that video, 28 seconds in, what is that guy doing?
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Novak: my favorite part of the boat

Just install the tools you can use, or those you can use reasonably. As far as you get it, you start developing a practice
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