Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 21-04-2016, 16:44   #211
Marine Service Provider
 
SV THIRD DAY's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Paz, Mexico
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,653
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

It will come in stages...they will first replace the counter folks that take your order.
Or 1 employee will look over 4-self order kiosks...just like at Home Depot and WalMart.

Less employees...less expenses.
The Capital cost of the Kiosk is a one time finance debt...the employee's cost goes on and on and on not to mention Obamacare!
__________________

__________________
Rich Boren Goodbye Morro Bay...Hello La Paz, Mexico and the owner of:
Cruise RO Water High Output Water
Technautic CoolBlue Refrigeration
SV THIRD DAY is offline  
Old 21-04-2016, 16:46   #212
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 17,062
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Your not hogging it, if anyone is, I am
But reason it's not automated is currently manual labor is cheaper. Way I figure it, is if for example a $15 an hour min wage passes, one of three things will happen.
1. Fast food hamburgers will cost $10 ea.
2 . Fast food will disappear
3. Number of employees will be reduced drastically, I assume by automation.

I don't have a dog in the fight to be truthful as I don't eat fast food, OK maybe occasionally a Subway sandwich, but that is it.

I don't have a clue where this is going, I do believe it's vital for someone to be able to work and take pride in their work and feel they contribute, that Welfare is demeaning and needs to be eliminated to a large extent.
People should have jobs, not a handout,


Sent from my iPad Pro using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________

__________________
a64pilot is offline  
Old 21-04-2016, 18:21   #213
Registered User
 
daletournier's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Seychelles
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 1,903
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY View Post
What blame?
People buying homes to either live in, rent, or for investment purposes is not just Legal...but is perfectly Moral and the right thing to do!

If people are complaining that the prices are too high, the solution is to build more homes, not attack and blame those doing the buying. Maybe if the Governments were not printing money to fund out of control spending then the interest rates would not be near zero and investors would put their money into the bank rather than a physical asset of property?

...ah...yes...but the Government regulators won't stop QE Infinity nor will they allow for those new homes to be built you see. So once again, the Government is screwing the little guy by interfering in the free market...do you see a trend here?
I'm with you Rich. You can't just keep devaluing money through the likes of zero or negative intetest rates and QE etc and not expect consequences. You also can't blame people that have the means and insight to recognize the problems to take advantage of the situation, its just smart.
A mate of mine sold his place in Australia for 1.2 million, he realized it was ridiculous. He then went and purchased several properties at there low point in Florida, I think 2009. He went from working in Australia to retired on a 70k / year passive income living on his boat! His he greedy or smart? Money needs to have a price, negative and zero rates will end badly. The crazy thing is , its quite predictable, but people don't want to look.

Sent from my vivo Y35 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
__________________
daletournier is offline  
Old 21-04-2016, 18:50   #214
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Boat: Passage 24/30 Cutter
Posts: 461
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
OK how about this, the biggest reason I'm sure Restaurants have dishwashing machines is they are cheaper than hiring a dishwashing person.
Sent from my iPad Pro using Cruisers Sailing Forum
I believe the real reason for automated dishwasher machines is a matter of cleanliness and the ability to kill bacteria using higher temperatures than the human hands can tolerate. I'm not sure if it is cheaper than a human.
__________________
Sailorbob8599 is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 06:40   #215
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by darylat8750 View Post
Is there an anchor on the bottom in that picture?


Ah.. the picture didn't copy....
Ah ... yes. A sweet longhaired one! ;-)

b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 07:09   #216
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY View Post

What blame?

People buying homes to either live in, rent, or for investment purposes is not just Legal...but is perfectly Moral and the right thing to do!

...
Yes.

Then again think about all those second homes in warmer climes that get occupied just for a fortnight every year. Summer homes they call it. Well, I can tell you there used to be a forest, a meadow and a bush where the homes are now. I, for one, of all the animals and plants that share this planet like mankind least, with all our morality that allows for zero respect for the remaining 99.99% of the species.

Summer homes and 'investment properties' should be banned and torn down. Summer homes and investment property that's exactly what is killing the landscape form the Med thru Cal, Florida and into the Caribbean.

Sure, our vision of morality allows for all forms of selfishness. Our morality is a living proof of how poor and short-sighted our morality is. Morality allowed us to chase and drown witches, burn people on stakes and drop nuclear bombs on other humans.

Now morality is OK with thousands of square miles of land destroyed to give us summer homes. I think our morality is screwed.

b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 07:52   #217
Registered User
 
goat's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Everywhere (Sea of Cortez right now)
Boat: PSC Orion 27
Posts: 1,098
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel View Post
Yes.

Then again think about all those second homes in warmer climes that get occupied just for a fortnight every year. Summer homes they call it. Well, I can tell you there used to be a forest, a meadow and a bush where the homes are now. I, for one, of all the animals and plants that share this planet like mankind least, with all our morality that allows for zero respect for the remaining 99.99% of the species.

Summer homes and 'investment properties' should be banned and torn down. Summer homes and investment property that's exactly what is killing the landscape form the Med thru Cal, Florida and into the Caribbean.

Sure, our vision of morality allows for all forms of selfishness. Our morality is a living proof of how poor and short-sighted our morality is. Morality allowed us to chase and drown witches, burn people on stakes and drop nuclear bombs on other humans.

Now morality is OK with thousands of square miles of land destroyed to give us summer homes. I think our morality is screwed.

b.
What is it? Earth Day today? Uhh...yeah, I guess it is...
__________________
goat is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 07:59   #218
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 17,062
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by goat View Post
What is it? Earth Day today? Uhh...yeah, I guess it is...

Good point, I had forgotten that.
__________________
a64pilot is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 08:14   #219
cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Charleston, SC
Boat: Camano Troll
Posts: 4,669
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY View Post
Are you telling us that Government action has unintended consequences that end up hurting their Citizens? I don't believe it...can't be...say it ain't so...

Just wait till the folks that lose their new $15/hr job to an Order Kiosk....will they learn that lesson? Na...you know they won't. They and the politicians that lie to them, will blame it on the big evil Corporations and 1%. I could write their playbook it's so predictable.
When machines or technology can replace humans at less cost that is inevitable. And that's how it should be. A business owner would be a fool not to reduce the cost of doing business when possible.

A person who chooses not to learn any valuable skills will always be on the bottom and always be one step away from being replaced by a machine.

Even with skills, one has to be flexible enough to learn new skills as technology takes over.
__________________
rwidman is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 08:18   #220
cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Charleston, SC
Boat: Camano Troll
Posts: 4,669
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailorbob8599 View Post
I believe the real reason for automated dishwasher machines is a matter of cleanliness and the ability to kill bacteria using higher temperatures than the human hands can tolerate. I'm not sure if it is cheaper than a human.
Automated dishwashers are cheaper and more reliable than humans. They don't fail to show up, they don't get drunk or stoned on the job, and they clean better. They never argue with the other automatic dishwashers.


I think the easiest way people can begin to understand economics is to imagine themselves as owning a business, selling products and/or services and hiring and paying employees.
__________________
rwidman is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 09:12   #221
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 17,062
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

I think the comment on the Affordable Health Care act was correct to, it's my understanding that increases costs to an employer by quite a bit, how much I don't know as I have no employees.
One way I know to dodge those kinds of unfunded Federal mandates was only hire part time employees, so the net effect was just the opposite of what was intended as part time I believe has no benefits
__________________
a64pilot is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 09:37   #222
Registered User
 
thomm225's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Hampton Roads
Boat: 1974 Bristol 27
Posts: 3,469
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Affordable Health Care is definitely a good thing though.

The government may just need to figure out a better way to fund it
__________________
thomm225 is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 09:44   #223
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Boat: PDQ 32 DogHouse
Posts: 600
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thomm225 View Post
Affordable Health Care is definitely a good thing though.



The government may just need to figure out a better way to fund it

Or better yet, find a way to get out of it. With the exception of the military and USCG can you name one federal project that was run well and efficiently?


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
amytom is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 09:57   #224
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 17,062
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by amytom View Post
Or better yet, find a way to get out of it. With the exception of the military and USCG can you name one federal project that was run well and efficiently?


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum

It's my understanding that both the Tennessee Valley Authority and NASA were both profitable.
__________________
a64pilot is offline  
Old 22-04-2016, 10:06   #225
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Boat: PDQ 32 DogHouse
Posts: 600
Re: Now I understand how poor i am.

Don't know enough about the TVA but I'll concede NASA (I'm a NASA brat myself). But they are definitely in the minority. Most federal projects are poster children for inefficiency and stupidity. Just look at the FDA/USCG issue in another thread.

BTW even NASA is in the process of letting private companies do more and more of the routine stuff with better efficiency and letting NASA itself concentrate on pure research (and Muslim relations). 😜


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________

__________________
amytom is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
trying to understand ssb sailor12 Marine Electronics 12 20-03-2011 10:46
Sorry, I Don't Understand How to . . . Jacques2 Forum Tech Support & Site Help 13 25-11-2010 06:45
I Don't Understand Rigging unbusted67 Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 5 28-09-2009 13:32
Land Dwellers, Just Don't Understand JusDreaming Off Topic Forum 29 21-09-2009 11:16



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:59.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.