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Old 03-03-2016, 10:43   #1
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Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

As much as I'm a big fan of European boat design, I've never understood why the concept of using a Motorsailer for cruising hasn't caught on. I watched this Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer video today and thought from a practical standpoint.... What's not to like? 3,000 mile range, beautiful spacious interior.

The styling is a little dated for my taste, but it sure offers a lot of boat for the money. Not as much real estate as a catamaran, but certainly more than most monohulls.

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Old 03-03-2016, 10:49   #2
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

Some people like to sail?
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

If you seriously like Nordhavn, I would take a look at the 43 and the 60.

I would LOVE to own a 60.

They have no sails but they are extraordinary livable for any Monkey.
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

Not so much interested in making a change, just wondering why the concept hasn't caught on.
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

My SWAG would be as most any combo thing, it does neither as well as the purpose built product, meaning it's not a very good sailboat, nor is it a very good trawler.
I'd also say Nordhaven people are Trawler people, not sailors.


Poor analogy but people have built flying cars since the 40's, and every one of the results in a bad airplane and a bad car
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Old 03-03-2016, 15:06   #6
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Not so much interested in making a change, just wondering why the concept hasn't caught on.
the concept is a good one, but the implementation isn't.

The 56MS is a bit weird of a layout. If you compare it to their trawlers, you get clearer partitioning of areas with the trawler. The pilothouse stands alone.

Compare the 56MS to the 43, 52, 60 layouts.

No overlap. Clear division:

You get a pilot house (with a capt's quarters 60)
You have a galley living area.
You have staterooms w/ office
You have a laundry room. (60)
You have an engine room.



They are beautiful
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Its pretty and solid but the draft is 7" and it is expensive compared to similar feeling space in the trawler line. Maybe when the used market gets some of the "new" off.
I was thinking about getting a trawler and looked at them but decided to go with the Bruckmann 50 for the reasons mentioned. It seemed to be more on the sailor side of the motorsailer equation.

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I agree. There isn't anything "not to like".
They are fabulous in every regard.
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As much as I'm a big fan of European boat design...
Hi Kenomac, sorry to contradict you but these boats are from "Glazed Duck/ Peking Duck" land. Their trawlers a superbly well thought out...

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Hi Kenomac, sorry to contradict you but these boats are from "Glazed Duck/ Peking Duck" land. Their trawlers a superbly well thought out...

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I know, designed in the US, built in Asia. What I meant was, I'm not particularly fond of the exterior styling of the Nordhavn since my taste preference is more European.

I guess the Motorsailer concept has never caught on because the end product isn't particularly great at either being a sailboat or trawler, but most sailboats (mono or multis) end up motoring or motorsailing half the time anyway due to no wind.
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

I have seen a handful of Nordhavens then I saw that Dashews' power boat ...

http://www.setsail.com/wp-content/up...RG_AIR-176.jpg

If I ever go to the dark side ...

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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

I like the Dashew styling, just add a .50 caliber machine gun on the foredeck and it would be perfect... but the anchor is a turn off.
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I guess the Motorsailer concept has never caught on because the end product isn't particularly great at either being a sailboat or trawler, but most sailboats (mono or multis) end up motoring or motorsailing half the time anyway due to no wind.

I bought a sailboat for my desire to hopefully see the SOPAC. My finances didn't allow a trawler that was as seaworthy as a good sailboat and one that had the legs to cover that distance, they exist, but are out of my price range.
But from a pure logical standpoint, power makes more sense than sail. or there would be cargo carrying sailboats plying the worlds oceans.

It didn't take me too long as a sailboat owner to realize just how important that little Diesel was, which surprised me as I didn't think I would use it as much as I do.

From a logical perspective, I think a motorsailer is a very logical boat, but I guess sailboat purist despise them and power boat lovers do too?
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I bought a sailboat for my desire to hopefully see the SOPAC. My finances didn't allow a trawler that was as seaworthy as a good sailboat and one that had the legs to cover that distance, they exist, but are out of my price range.
But from a pure logical standpoint, power makes more sense than sail. or there would be cargo carrying sailboats plying the worlds oceans.

It didn't take me too long as a sailboat owner to realize just how important that little Diesel was, which surprised me as I didn't think I would use it as much as I do.

From a logical perspective, I think a motorsailer is a very logical boat, but I guess sailboat purist despise them and power boat lovers do too?
You are one tough dude... as for me, WHEN I GROW UP, I would consider a nice trawler. A good friend has a "baked Alaska" (Grand Banks 48) from 1970 and it is surely the sexiest thing in our marina. (the new Cigale 16.5M would come close though) But he is always polishing, painting and varnishing as she's 100% solid teak. I would be more astute..
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

I think I've found the perfect yacht for exploring Europe and the rest of the world. The new Lagoon 630 Motoryacht. Now I just need to wait around five years for one to come onto the market at a price I can afford.
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