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Old 04-03-2016, 11:08   #16
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

Whats the range on the 630?
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:09   #17
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Whats the range on the 630?
Apparently, it can cross the Atlantic. The specs say fuel capacity of 793 gallons and the consumption is 3 gallons per hour at 8 knots. So 75 gallons per day=a 10 day range... Would require some extra fuel tanks or lots of jerry cans.
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

For the Nordhsaven, it looked nice, but as mentioned the spaces were somewhat broken up. Did I miss it: there appeared to be no sea berths? When you're on the wind, where does one sleep?
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I think it's the lack of meaningful/affordable used market is the culprit. As there are initially few of those compared to traditional sailboats, the ones which are offered used and in good condition are scooped up quickly. Probably even the ones in so-so condition are quickly sold. So you don't have a situation similar to a used sailboat market where a buyer can more or less pick and choose and then haggle to his affordable price knowing that there are many more around the corner to choose from.

I have yet to see a motorsailor/trawler type of the size, age and condition of any of the sailboats I owned for even close to these sailboat prices. And since most cruisers start with a used boat they can realistically afford these motorsailors are not in the running except for the very few. And then there are cats for those who want/need more space and don't mind paying for it. For them those motorsailors are not a good alternative as for that same $$ they can get a well appointed cat.
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

4 minute video and not one shot of the entire boat from the exterior? Come on!
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:21   #21
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Apparently, it can cross the Atlantic. The specs say fuel capacity of 793 gallons and the consumption is 3 gallons per hour at 8 knots. So 75 gallons per day=a 10 day range... Would require some extra fuel tanks or lots of jerry cans.
6kts usually dratically diff so this could be a great option for you
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:45   #22
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

You don't have to give up on sailing ability to get a big boat with a pilothouse, a large engine, and huge tanks. Just get a Nauticat.


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As much as I'm a big fan of European boat design, I've never understood why the concept of using a Motorsailer for cruising hasn't caught on. I watched this Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer video today and thought from a practical standpoint.... What's not to like? 3,000 mile range, beautiful spacious interior.

The styling is a little dated for my taste, but it sure offers a lot of boat for the money. Not as much real estate as a catamaran, but certainly more than most monohulls.

There's a reason why motor sailers aren't popular. They dont sail well and you have a motor boat encumbered with sailing kit.

Seems about as useful as a ferrari dump truck. Magic things that purport to do a little of everything often don't do any one thing well.

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If you seriously like Nordhavn, I would take a look at the 43 and the 60.

I would LOVE to own a 60.

They have no sails but they are extraordinary livable for any Monkey.
Not just for Monkeys, oldragbaggers like 'em too.
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You don't have to give up on sailing ability to get a big boat with a pilothouse, a large engine, and huge tanks. Just get a Nauticat.


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I'd also say Nordhaven people are Trawler people, not sailors.
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A large percentage of "trawler people" are former sailors. We like to think of it as graduating onwards and upwards.
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

The concept of a motor catamaran is one I explored carefully for the Western Med. I see no drawbacks except for the fuel cost. In saying that, my budget does not extend anywhere near the figures Kenomac is looking at, so it would a smaller vessel and a more economical set of power units....

Given the nature of the seas and winds in the area, it would solve a lot of problems.
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Re: Nordhavn 56 Motorsailer

Wheeeee SaltyMonkey!

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Standard fuel capacity is approx. 3,000 l. With the Long Range option (with an extra 1,900 l), the Lagoon 630 MY crossed the Atlantic in 14 days (Las Palmas to St Martin).
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The concept of a motor catamaran is one I explored carefully for the Western Med. I see no drawbacks except for the fuel cost. In saying that, my budget does not extend anywhere near the figures Kenomac is looking at, so it would a smaller vessel and a more economical set of power units....

Given the nature of the seas and winds in the area, it would solve a lot of problems.


Be sure to talk with folks who have owned them and get aboard a few yourself, ie sea trial thoroughly. I've seen several people go there and then sell and go back to a monohull powerboat. Almost universally when asked they've said negative things about steerage.
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