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Old 21-06-2015, 16:58   #1
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No Rail Meat for Cruisers (and other "stuff")

Out sailing the other day and noticed all the boats with crew sitting on the rails. This leads me to the following thought; cruising boats don't need rail meat! I don't plan ever have enough people on my boat that add up to enough weight to made a difference by putting it on the rail. In fact I'm sure if I did all that weight would have been best left on shore.

Also after watching a J-Boat and some 42' cruiser have a collision leaving a nice hole in the bow of the cruiser I have another thought: cruisers shouldn't have head sails so big that the foot is on or lower than the deck so they can not see what's' ahead, or have a head sail so big that it needs clear "windows" in it!

Bet others can come up with some other silly racer things cruisers shouldn't have.
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Re: No Rail Meat for Cruisers (and other "stuff")

Having started my sailing life as rail meat I agree. Loved racing but preferred it on other peoples boats. Cruising suits me much better.
And ditto on that blind foot. Better to lose a couple square feet of sail area than constantly worry about what I cant see. Not a big problem on racing boats where you have a bowman to keep you advised, big problem on shorthanded cruising boat.
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Old 21-06-2015, 17:25   #3
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Cruisers definitely should not have too many lines and things cluttering the boat....besides, they are just a trip hazard when going below for the next beer!


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Old 21-06-2015, 18:15   #4
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Fancy wind instruments and all the attendant wiring and crap...

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Old 21-06-2015, 19:49   #5
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Re: No Rail Meat for Cruisers (and other "stuff")

Cruisers should never invite racing types to cruise with them...... Especially Lawyers !
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Old 21-06-2015, 20:13   #6
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Re: No Rail Meat for Cruisers (and other "stuff")

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Out sailing the other day and noticed all the boats with crew sitting on the rails. This leads me to the following thought; cruising boats don't need rail meat! I don't plan ever have enough people on my boat that add up to enough weight to made a difference by putting it on the rail. In fact I'm sure if I did all that weight would have been best left on shore.

Also after watching a J-Boat and some 42' cruiser have a collision leaving a nice hole in the bow of the cruiser I have another thought: cruisers shouldn't have head sails so big that the foot is on or lower than the deck so they can not see what's' ahead, or have a head sail so big that it needs clear "windows" in it!

Bet others can come up with some other silly racer things cruisers shouldn't have.
Not sure why you would attack people who know how to sail better than you do... the size of your sails shouldn't dictate whether you keep a lookout or not... and weight distribution is important for trim on most vessels... but the bigger/heavier you get it's less of an impact.
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Old 21-06-2015, 20:20   #7
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Re: No Rail Meat for Cruisers (and other "stuff")

27...this is a tongue in cheek type thread ...meant to poke fun at racers.... many who have been accomplished racers turned into excellent cruisers are doing the poking.

But on a serious note...I think insurance companies would dispute your claim that racers are better/safer sailors.

Then again....I'm not a lawyer
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Cruisers should never have a PYS rating, they are handicapped enough already! God forbid a results system, it might actually prove who has the best anchor or gun on board !


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Old 22-06-2015, 06:07   #9
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Not sure why you would attack people who know how to sail better than you do...
Gee wonder how you were able to make such a wild jump in accessing my sailing ability?

Maybe it was because I wasn't involved in the sailboat t-bone so I must be doing something wrong
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Re: No Rail Meat for Cruisers (and other "stuff")

Let me try again...

I bet the other boat was a Hunter?

I knew a guy who raced an Olson 30 that made himself a titanium fork to keep on board.

How about the backpacker stove in the galley that hangs on a wire gimbal? On the other hand, if you have tile or granite countertops...
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I get it now. Some people are just a......, thanks for the proof.
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Re Rail Meat:

Depends what they're wearing .........
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I am a big fan of foredeck fluff.


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Re: No Rail Meat for Cruisers (and other "stuff")

I have thought of the limitations of forward visibility as well. I asked the question of the forum but so far over 100 views and no comments.
What Are You Looking At? CCD/CMOS Cameras

I use video in my soon to be former profession and we have lots of cheap technology for backup cameras for cars. Why not work out a solution for forward looking CC cameras?

Why not a bow camera, masthead camera, spreader camera? I can see an infrared camera being of some use when something goes bump in the night too.

Has anyone else thought of or used cameras to cover blind spots?
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I get it now. Some people are just a......, thanks for the proof.
LOL I deserve that, wasn't paying attention, wouldn't have made the hunter comment had I noticed you owned one.
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