Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 14-07-2016, 06:09   #16
Don't ask if you can't handle it
 
sailorboy1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: On the boat somewhere
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 12,200
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by zedpassway View Post

Why do people ask these questions?
Because they are unhappy with their life and think a boat will fix it.
__________________

__________________
jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
sailorboy1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 06:18   #17
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 16,518
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Maybe it is me getting older and I guess discouragement comes with that, but I think the American dream is dieing. You know that no matter what I do if I work hard at it, am good at it and save money, we will enjoy the good life one day.
You can't do that on a Walmart or Mcdonald's salary.

Or maybe it is the younger generation that want to skip that work hard and save part and go straight to enjoying the good life?

But two things seem more prevalent here than it seems they were only a couple of years ago (I've only been here three or so myself).
1. I have $10K to spend and want to sail around the world, which boat to buy for less than $10K is suitable for such a voyage?
2. We have to have at least a 50' Cat to have enough room to be comfortable.

Those are so diametrically opposed to each other that I don't what to think.
__________________

__________________
a64pilot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 06:48   #18
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Texas Gulf Coast
Posts: 89
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

They're just asking and I can't fault them for that. Hell, I am in the same boat, so to speak, except I have been fortunate enough to approach it with a realistic budget and, knock on wood, a modest, if not decent, income stream in retirement. I suspect that it will not take long for reality to set in. One look at a $10K boat and the appeal of living aboard will likely die, if not, they will go broke PDQ trying to fix the most basic items. Hell, I would love a 50' Cat, but paying for it might pose an issue, so we will adjust our sights and focus on getting out there on something we can afford.
__________________
HighTemp is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 07:05   #19
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
Posts: 2,833
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

I don't understand any of the live aboard threads when it's people who have never even sailed!!!!

I don't know why you would want to live in a boat unless you already have an addiction to being on a boat which probably means you either already have the boat or you have a boat but need to upgrade to something more suitable.

I think it is fun to live on the boat, but only if you go out cruising and not as a home away from your 9-5.

I could only consider living aboard and working unless it's because I have a short term work contract in a city that is on the water and new to me.


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
S/Y Jessabbé http://www.jessabbe.com/
hoppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 07:09   #20
Moderator
 
weavis's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SEVILLE - MALLORCA
Posts: 9,841
Send a message via Skype™ to weavis
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppy View Post
I don't understand any of the live aboard threads when it's people who have never even sailed!!!!

I don't know why you would want to live in a boat unless you already have an addiction to being on a boat which probably means you either already have the boat or you have a boat but need to upgrade to something more suitable.

I think it is fun to live on the boat, but only if you go out cruising and not as a home away from your 9-5.

I could only consider living aboard and working unless it's because I have a short term work contract in a city that is on the water and new to me.


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
Everyone is different...
Perhaps good to remember that...
__________________
- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
weavis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 07:29   #21
Moderator
 
Hudson Force's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 7,894
Images: 1
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

We moved aboard young with only dinghy sailing experience.
We lived aboard while keeping full employment for many years.
We never hesitated to ask questions from experienced people.
We were commonly unable to budget $10,000 for anything.
We had babies while living aboard without problems.

....and we could not have done this as we did 45 years ago if we just had jobs at McDonalds or Walmart.

I see no problem with inexperienced people asking questions, even if they're old questions that we've heard before.
__________________
Take care and joy, Aythya crew
Hudson Force is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 07:32   #22
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
Posts: 2,833
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

I do understand that everyone is different.


On a side note, in my Corfu marina, the two yachts that are totally uncared for (one is a pile of junk) are live aboard yachts that never leave their pen. The real junk one was moved to elsewhere in the marina, possibly for better access to the facilities, but more likely because the new marina management removed some abandoned yachts and probably moved the pile of junk because the rich super yacht customers would have to walk past it. It looked so bad I don't blame them if they were responsible.

Anyway, I wouldn't want any $10,000 live aboard's in my part of the marina if they are not boat interested....


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
S/Y Jessabbé http://www.jessabbe.com/
hoppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 07:33   #23
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Mexico, working on the boat
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35. and 14ft.Whitehall pulling skiff.
Posts: 8,012
Images: 5
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by zedpassway View Post
...and sail around the world.

Why do people ask these questions? Do they think that sailing on the ocean is like sailing on a calm lake that is just a little bigger?

Are people getting dumber, or are they trying for the Darwin Awards?

I'm appalled at how people think that its like buying a used motor home and getting out on the open road.
Maybe people are not worldly, suave and debonair as yourself. Or maybe they are not all knowing and a sailing oracle like you. Or just maybe they are unknowing and would like to gain knowledge from hopefully kind and experienced people.
My take is you didn't get enough attention at this thread Needing suggestions on sailing from California and ending somewhere in Europe and came here.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"

http://wwwjolielle.blogspot.com/
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 07:42   #24
Don't ask if you can't handle it
 
sailorboy1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: On the boat somewhere
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 12,200
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppy View Post
I don't understand any of the live aboard threads when it's people who have never even sailed!!!!
It's the dream! I only got into boating to travel and only got into sailing because at the time fuel was over $5/gallon and I didn't think we could afford to travel at rate. I researched the whole thing for 2 years before I ever sailed a day and CF was part of that (but I never asked any "what type of boat" stupid question because I know how to run a search first )
__________________
jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
sailorboy1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 07:49   #25
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
Posts: 2,833
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1 View Post
It's the dream! I only got into boating to travel and only got into sailing because at the time fuel was over $5/gallon and I didn't think we could afford to travel at rate. I researched the whole thing for 2 years before I ever sailed a day and CF was part of that (but I never asked any "what type of boat" stupid question because I know how to run a search first )
If the dream is to live aboard and cruise, that's fantastic. But if it's to buy a boat that is firmly fixed to the dock, then those people should consider the more traditional solution and watch Jerry Springer from a caravan park.


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
S/Y Jessabbé http://www.jessabbe.com/
hoppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 08:03   #26
Registered User
 
Sea Dreaming's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Whoo! Finally made it back to Mexico!
Boat: Cheoy Lee Offshore 38
Posts: 1,450
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by AD28 View Post
More to the point:

Why is it that the people who ask "New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard and sail around the world."

NEVER have any understanding of search engines and search engine techniques?
Well, I am sure a search engine brought them to CF where they were hoping to get some friendly conversation regarding their ideas. Stupidly they might even think advice from live people will point them in the right direction. Instead they will be met with hostility and distain for daring to try to talk to others instead of slogging through millions of papes of net content that, often, is conflicting advice and ideas.

Omg its so uncool and unfair to disturb the experts who just want to fart around in their own, exclusive, club without asking them to dirty their thoughts with the worst horror....being new and confused.
__________________
Sea Dreaming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 08:09   #27
Don't ask if you can't handle it
 
sailorboy1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: On the boat somewhere
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 12,200
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppy View Post
If the dream is to live aboard and cruise, that's fantastic. But if it's to buy a boat that is firmly fixed to the dock, then those people should consider the more traditional solution and watch Jerry Springer from a caravan park.


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
Doesn't matter to me why people want a boat. If they just want to live on it next to the dock I'm fine with it. But just like for my land house the same rules apply, don't be a run down eye-sore for the neighborhood etc. But this is a different thread topic. This is about the "never sailed but want to get a cheap boat and sail around the world" people. Those are mostly unhappy dreamers I feel.
__________________
jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
sailorboy1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 08:09   #28
Moderator
 
weavis's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SEVILLE - MALLORCA
Posts: 9,841
Send a message via Skype™ to weavis
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppy View Post
If the dream is to live aboard and cruise, that's fantastic. But if it's to buy a boat that is firmly fixed to the dock, then those people should consider the more traditional solution and watch Jerry Springer from a caravan park.


Sent from my iPhone using Cruisers Sailing Forum
Gosh Hoppy... Maybe they like the motion of the boat at the dock to live on...
__________________
- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
weavis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 08:09   #29
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 16,518
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Hudson,
It should be remembered that when you started out, I bet you could buy a nice, new automobile for $3K, and the average house cost $30K.
$10K isn't much anymore, unfortunately.
I just looked it up average house cost in 1975 was $39,500
Now it's $358,900 ?
https://ycharts.com/indicators/avera...sold_in_the_us

The Walmart, McDonald's comment was based on I believe the good paying, manufacturing type jobs are gone, or disappearing

Last edit, I promise.
It's going to be very tough for our Children and Grandkids to do what we have done
__________________
a64pilot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2016, 08:11   #30
Don't ask if you can't handle it
 
sailorboy1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: On the boat somewhere
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 12,200
Re: New, have $10K, family, and baby want to live aboard...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dreaming View Post
Stupidly they might even think advice from live people will point them in the right direction.
Amateur newbies But even those of us who have been here a while make the same mistake over and over
__________________

__________________
jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
sailorboy1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
family

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Introducing a new family hoping to live aboard soon! Mbrwr Families, Kids and Pets Afloat 6 25-02-2015 07:25
Hi All. Planning to cruise/live aboard with my family...looking at boats and suggesti Coops75 Liveaboard's Forum 14 08-02-2015 03:12
I Want to Get a Sailboat and Live Aboard . . . TKainZero General Sailing Forum 16 17-01-2011 09:26
A New Baby - 'Our Baby' Fishman_Tx Construction, Maintenance & Refit 16 31-08-2009 11:46
1985 Westerly and 1978 SOVEREL 36' 10k each elvisfan Classifieds Archive 2 24-08-2008 13:12



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 20:00.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.