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Old 29-03-2016, 04:19   #16
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Re: Need some help to plan pacific crossing

Ah...sarcasm... the poorest form of wit...but often the funniest...
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Old 29-03-2016, 06:00   #17
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Would it be better if i choose an other period of the year or its anyway a suicide plan?
I might can go first to new zeland and wait for a good time.
I not in a rush at all.
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No.. its not a suicide plan.. just go easy and be prepared to wait for the right moments..
I tend to view trips a little differently to many.. it all depends on your long term objectives.. if Chile is your ultimate objective that's the way to go and get the most adventure/exploring.. if you plan to return to Australia I'd take a different route and visit the islands on the way back.
A lot will depend on your boat choice.. have you anything in mind other than 30 foot.. walk some docks and see what fits your pocket and remember you'll need a cruising budget.. harbour duties and other fees, food and water etc.
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I think having a friend with you will make the trip more doable and much more enjoyable then trying it solo.

You will need someone to be on watch at all times and great to have someone watching your back.

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Old 29-03-2016, 07:37   #20
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I wont do it solo. My friend will join me.

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As i have no idea from thinks and i just try to build up my knowledge. Im happy to get any good idea from experts. Thats the reason why i joined this forum.
So if you would tell me which boat do i need to choose i will choose that. And the same with the timing.
Also it would be great full if someone can send me links where i can read about sailing and so on.
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Old 29-03-2016, 07:53   #21
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Re: Need some help to plan pacific crossing

Go north. Hawaii. Then pacific nw (Canada) and then downwind to South America. Takes longer but probably more sound than going against currents and winds all the way.


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Re: Need some help to plan pacific crossing

OZ (or NZ) to S America is a difficult patch. I think you give yourself a hard testing ground to learn your ocean ropes. Our worst wx ever happened in that area.

If you intend to sail the Southern Ocean you are sailing between Dec and Feb. If you want to sail closer to the Equator, you are likely sailing between May and September.

Look up NP 136 for full details.

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Given steep learning curve here. I would recommend volunteering as crew on a delivery. If you search around your area and find delivery captains and explain your desired adventure. One delivery would give you a much better understanding of what you need to learn. Sailing, navigation, weather, watches, system repair and maintenance and so much more.
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I wont do it solo. My friend will join me.

Boatman61:
As i have no idea from thinks and i just try to build up my knowledge. Im happy to get any good idea from experts. Thats the reason why i joined this forum.
So if you would tell me which boat do i need to choose i will choose that. And the same with the timing.
Also it would be great full if someone can send me links where i can read about sailing and so on.
The boat you get depends much on your budget.. how much can you afford to spend on the boat allowing at least 40% more for possible upgrades it may need.. its unlikely you'll find anything 2nd to 5th hand ready to take on such a trip.. its not like walking into a garage and buying an old banger to drive from Sydney to Perth..
For example $30,000 will get you something like this...
http://www.tradeboats.com.au/detail/...nson/32/294028
$20,000..
http://www.tradeboats.com.au/detail/...chts/30/351575
Ideally you want Fibreglass for low maintenance.. Steel though strong has hidden problems more often than not.. the same with Ferro and timber/composites.. more specialised knowledge required which you've not the time to achieve.
Browse the internet sites for boats from half of what you can afford up to your maximum


PS: I'm no expert.. just a working seaman.

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Re: Need some help to plan pacific crossing

I'm with Jim Cate on this one.

I've seen story's like this on the dock in Opua and it's generally not good. Just sitting in Nassau a few weeks ago looking at the "dreams" that are left to rot, heart breaking. My heart is to have everyone who has the dream to achieve it however I would not step in a boxing ring against a seasoned professional without some preparation.

Again not trying to throw cold water (no pun intended) but what you are proposing requires advanced skills. Those skills come with time. It's not just sailing...it's systems management, navigation, first aid, provisioning, Mechanical skills, communications, etc, etc, etc.

Short of that if you are determined get busy :-) Lots to learn and lots of good advice on this forum!
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Also it would be great full if someone can send me links where i can read about sailing and so on.
Links that other people have are so numerous that it would be foolhardy to give you them all.

What most of us have found is that we make our own links to material that we have found by searching the internet with an internet search engine like Google.

You could also use the search on this forums and look for

--- books
--- there's a whole section on navigation and electronics on this forum
--- this and other boating forums are helpful to learn about specific questions, but to actually learn all you'll need to know, you should start with books, that's why they write them

Eventually you're going to have to learn to be an electrician, plumber and mechanic, so: electrical (whole section here, too), plumber and diesel mechanic.

YouTube has also been mentioned as a helpful tool.

Aha, that's the word I was looking for: tools. What you need to begin to develop are your own tools. And your own knowledgebase.

Good luck.
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I never really sailed so until i need to learn many things and i hope you can give me some tips or a link where i can read about it.

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A few tips will not get you across an ocean.

Learn to sail first. Get lots of sailing experience. Try some coastal cruises or deliveries. Crew on a bluewater passage.

What boat do you have? Is it equipped?

We don't want to hear your name on the evening news...when they find your boat adrift.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:10   #28
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Re: Need some help to plan pacific crossing

I want to get tips just where to start.
I know google and that you can find everything on the internet but many information arent so use full or false.
There for i asked this forum which has people with knowledge. To recommend some book and route period of the year to make it or forget to do.
I dont have a boat yet.
Thanks boatman for usefull tips. 15-30 thousand would be the budget for the boat actually.
I've got quite good mechanical skills and at home try to fix everything by my self.
I never been a person who sitting at home. Did a lot of hiking trips biking and so on.
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Take lots of bananas, I don't think bad luck is going to be the main concern.
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Ok, I have to weigh in here again :-) Puska2 are you from Chile? Native language?

Based on your responses so far I would advise, if you are keen, to buy your boat and spend the year cruising local waters. The ocean is real and unprepared with a 30K boat odds are you are going to put other peoples lives in danger including your crew.

Now I hear your desire is to become prepared and that is a noble desire. Reading is part of it but DOING is the important bit. I just had a text from a friend who spent the last few hours in survival mode in the Bahamas. I took him out a few weeks ago aboard his 55' (3/4 of a million dollar) catamaran (we sailed over to Bahamas and back in 24 hours) and quickly realized he was woefully unprepared for the reality of offshore (or nearshore) sailing. I mention the price cause it doesn't matter, 30K, 750K..........the lack of experience lead to the same results.

He asked me to be "brutally honest" and I was. I observed all and wrote a DETAILED report. To his credit he set about DOING what I suggested and is safer now however, as I read of his misadventures this evening it wasn't hard to figure out what went wrong.

This is fine when close to home but in the southern ocean a whole different story. I don't care about you so much but as a veteran of the US Coast Guard I've seen first hand and risked my life to rescue those who should not have been "out there".

Another note, 30K for the boat, it's going to be spartan if it's strong. That is cool but be prepared. Hand steering for days on end is grueling.............grueling. The systems are going to be dated. That may be ok but you need someone to check all out. The metal fatigue alone in the rig is suspect and again, for the route you are proposing your rig will be pushed to the extreme.

Getting late here. I truly wish you all the best. One of the marks of good seamanship is knowing ones limits.
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