Multi vs Monos. A simple poll

[DDup]

Totally naive and unscientific findings based on a sailing simulator / video game, ok? Feel free to discount my vote. I would not blame you. I have next to zero real life experience.

Before I figured out how to avoid overpowering the sails, I was having a hard time keeping stability in either. The monos would heel way over or round up or whathaveyou, basically losing control until I let out the main. In the same conditions the multis would flip inverted before I could react. Even after I learned to control the monos, I still occasionally flip the multis.

Monos are more forgiving, is the lesson I learned from that game. Based on that dubious experience, I'd have to say no, multis are not as safe as monos. Not even close.

Er... I think we have to discount your experience due to it being no experience.

[Blue Skye]

Poll should be anonymous, if possible, may get more involved. Pretty sure CF had a similar poll a long long time ago. In my opinion the forum has improved when the mono vs multi debate pops up, much more civilized than it was 10 years ago. Nothing wrong with personal preferences. Oh, as far as safety, a competent captain is more important than how many hulls it has (as others have stated)

[TeddyDiver]

This is a bit naive poll. Some boats are safer than others regardless of the number of hulls.

[Training Wheels]

Yes..

[44'cruisingcat]

No. They're safer.


(Tried to put the big grin smiley in, but it wouldn't work.)

[daletournier]

Originally Posted by DDup

Totally naive and unscientific findings based on a sailing simulator / video game, ok? Feel free to discount my vote. I would not blame you. I have next to zero real life experience.

Before I figured out how to avoid overpowering the sails, I was having a hard time keeping stability in either. The monos would heel way over or round up or whathaveyou, basically losing control until I let out the main. In the same conditions the multis would flip inverted before I could react. Even after I learned to control the monos, I still occasionally flip the multis.

Monos are more forgiving, is the lesson I learned from that game. Based on that dubious experience, I'd have to say no, multis are not as safe as monos. Not even close.

Er... I think we have to discount your experience due to it being no experience.

Seriously? His vote dosent count? Ok so everyone should write down their experience? Whats the cut off? Min of 5000nm or 50,000nm? or maybe the type of boat? Bluewater or coastal...lol. Well it looks like 90% of the forum can't contribute, as most probably don't have a boat.

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[Seaslug Caravan]

Can't believe that such a simplistic question can be used to resolve anything.





In the smaller size range of 20 to 25 feet any sane person would pick the mono hull as being safer. The multi is going to require a highly skilled and vigilant crew, or just lucky , to keep it buttered side up.

Is the boat going to be used for high latitude cruising? If so good luck keeping the "bergy bits" from getting jammed under the bridgedeck of a multi and destroying it.

Just a couple of points to ponder of the many that I'm sure the CF brigade can muster.

So the answer is YES and NO.

I'm thinking someone is trolling for more site traffic.

No good can come of this.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by daletournier

Seriously? His vote dosent count? Ok so everyone should write down their experience? Whats the cut off? Min of 5000nm or 50,000nm? or maybe the type of boat? Bluewater or coastal...lol. Well it looks like 90% of the forum can't contribute, as most probably don't have a boat.

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Dale. Give over.

His vote counts but his experience is no experience... its video... He was honest enough to say...... I find it strange that a person would base his opinion on a game but thats life....

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Seaslug Caravan

Can't believe that such a simplistic question can be used to resolve anything.

In the smaller size range of 20 to 25 feet any sane person would pick the mono hull as being safer. The multi is going to require a highly skilled and vigilant crew, or just lucky , to keep it buttered side up.

Is the boat going to be used for high latitude cruising? If so good luck keeping the "bergy bits" from getting jammed under the bridgedeck of a multi and destroying it.

Just a couple of points to ponder of the many that I'm sure the CF brigade can muster.

So the answer is YES and NO.

I'm thinking someone is trolling for more site traffic.

Maybe you should read #1...

[Seaslug Caravan]

Originally Posted by weavis

Maybe you should read #1...

#1..... ?? What on earth is that?.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Seaslug Caravan

#1..... ?? What on earth is that?.

#1 is the first post.

[Seaslug Caravan]

Originally Posted by weavis

#1 is the first post.

Dear Mr Weavis, with all due respect, I have read your post and will repeat, "Your question is to simplistic to resolve anything" .

Its a bit like asking if I'll be safer packing a shotgun or a 303.

It all depends on your situation and surroundings.

[weavis]

I have little hope for world peace....

Already people are wanting to change the question. Wanting to express their opinion as to how the poll should be conducted etc...

Look. We as a boating community seem to have antipathy between multis and monos. It comes down to a basic acceptance or rejection of twin hulls. The question is a simple one, Do you think think Multis are as safe as monos... shades of gray are not required, build quality control techniques are not involved, crew competence is not a question......

The simple act of answering a question on CF turns into a personal/ political/agenda driven issue....

Do you like the colour blue? Yes or No?
Well the blue needs more black in it for me.
Well blue has so many shades, which blue are you talking about?
NO! Its like black only not as dark!!

So what has been achieved so far? It would seem that 72% of people who answered feel that Multis are as safe as monos. That can change as time goes on. That will then be subdivided into posters who have ifs and buts and criteria driven agendas for WHEN they are safer etc........... but for now it is of sole interest as to whether the CF is as divided as other indicators suggest.

What is expected from this poll?

If the result is that a large proportion feel multis are as safe, then and only then can we address as to WHY the antipathy toward them exist in the remaining anti camp... and see what can be done to redress the mis information... This will take different questions.

If the result is that the majority do NOT feel that multis are as safe, then multi owners can address the reasons given in due course and check the validity or not of the concerns. This will take different questions.

Real simplistic and addressing the gut feeling of sailors. Nothing ulterior or deep and dark about the question.

There is also no criticism implied or accepted in your answer.

I still love the Neel Trimaran concept in the 45.... jes saying.

[daletournier]

Originally Posted by weavis

Dale. Give over.

His vote counts but his experience is no experience... its video... He was honest enough to say...... I find it strange that a person would base his opinion on a game but thats life....

Lol....some how I missed that it was video game experience :-) but that's a step up from forum experience, isnt it? :-)

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[weavis]

Originally Posted by daletournier

Lol....some how I missed that it was video game experience :-) but that's a step up from forum experience, isnt it? :-)

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dont make me agree with you....