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Old 28-04-2006, 05:40   #1
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mud berths for sailboats

Hi. i was wondering if anyone has experience with keeping a boat in a tidal creek that dries out at low tide? this would be very convenient since it is behind my house but then the boat could only be moved at high tides. the mud is very soft which would allow the keel to settle down keeping the boat upright. i was wondering about thru hulls .. will they become clogged or will they stay clear .. especially the engine cooling intake? appreciate the feedback
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Old 28-04-2006, 06:37   #2
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Not a problem with a catamaran! except if the skeg/rudder is as deep as the keel, if the boat sheers sideways as it takes the ground there is a lot of force on the skeg/rudder.

Through hulls and impellors will get clogged.

fin keel may dig a hole eventually for the keel, but could also miss the hole with the keel and tip boat sideways into the hole!

bilge keelers will also dig their own holes for the keels. Those bilge keelers that tip their keels away from each other can suffer from hydraulic compression where the forces at the hull/bilge keel are excessive and cause damage.

lift keel can get gravel into the keel box and jam the keel
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Old 28-04-2006, 09:17   #3
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Hi,
Well Kai Nui and I have had an experience with mud births J Scott told our story about Petrel (our first boat sailboat together) so I wont go into that, just a brief note to explain the mud! After 10 months rebuilding on the hard!! The boat yard sold and gave us 10 days to get her hull watertight (we had 3 planks out below the waterline!). When we were put in the water we needed to get the engine installed and do a hole list of things to move her. We were moved to a slip in what was called “Poop lagoon” Yuck! Anyway we (I) was very concerned, I thought we would have to live at a list for a month or so until we could move the boat. It turned out that after a couple of days we kind of settled into a perfect slot made in the mud. It was amazing! Petrel never knew the difference, she just made kind of a sucking noise after the tide cane in and she broke loose of the mudJ We were tide to a dock so I am not sure what would have happened if we did not have something to give her a little support? Aside from the smell of the mud it was fine. The through hulls did not seem to be affected either.
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sundari you have helped me to believe that I should give this a try. i am hoping the keel will settle into a slot as you said .. and i will save a lot of money by doing this. this will limit the time that the boat can be moved but hey that's life
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We were in Anchorage AK a2 weeks ago and they had a lot of boats just sitting in the mud!! What a sight!!! They have BIG TIDES !!! I think it was 30 ft!!!!!!!!! We did not see any sail boats on the mud but a lot of big boats!! And little ones.
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Susan?? How big were the BIG boats ... and how small were the little ones. There weren't any inbetween?
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Tugs were about 50' and the fishing dories were about 16'.
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Haha, thats one of my Uncle's Tugs, and actually that's his dock, I do believe.

The currents in Cook Inlet are enormous, many a boats have been sent down stream! I have seen very few sailboats out in this area, though the same uncle has taken a hobie cat out in the Inlet .
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yanos, COOL! We had a great time up there. Most of the sailing seems to be out of Whittier. That dock is the one by the launch ramp. We had a great time watching the 30' tides Are you up there, or just your uncle? I am headed up for another claim in the next few weeks, be great to buy you a beer at Rumrunners.
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I was born and raised up here. It looks like its going to be a fantastic summer, great time to come up. You are correct, Whittier and Seward are the sailing hot spots (If you can call them that ). I would love to meet up for a beer. Send me an email when you're planning to come on up : hanstheman at hotmail dot com
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Will do! Still waiting for our insured vehicle to get released so I can come up and inspect it. Probably in the next couple weeks. I will drop you an email.
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Back when I had a single keeler I put the keel deep in the mud many times , no problem. I was moored in Auckland for many months before I realized thay my 6 ft draft had been pushing itself into the mud every tide in 3 ft of water. I was tied to pilings with long lines, nothing to hold her up.But she stayed upright as the musd was so soft.
I've had a twin keeler for the last 22 years and have never paid to tie her to a dock in that time.I've used a lot of mud berths.
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ok thanks. i moved the boat behind my house at high tide and she really looked beautiful. she did not look as good surrounded by low water and mud .. but the dockage is very reasonable for now!!
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