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Old 29-08-2015, 15:29   #1
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Morgan OI 33 keel board

I purchased a 1973 Morgan OI 33 hull #33. It has a centerboard or keel board, in fact I was given a "spare" keel board. The board seems to be made of steel, 50" tip to tip, 13.5" wide, with a wing shape, thick on one side, thin on the other.

I am told that it really does change the feel of the boat when dropped down, though it isn't very big. To be honest I am hesitant to even drop it since the activating mechanism is a tiny little string (like an old light bulb string). If the string broke I couldn't get it back up again.

I wasn't aware that the OI33 had a keel board. I am not finding anything in Google about an OI33 keelboard.

Does anyone out there know anything about a centerboard on this boat?
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Re: Morgan OI 33 keel board

If you are worried about the mechanics, replace/update them. You will find the upwind capabilities improve noticeably with the CB down. You might also notice the weather-holm diminish. Make sure you know how to dive on it & attach a replacement lift pennant.


Our original swing CB was 1700 pounds. Replaced it with 350 pound glass & lead fin. The original had 5/8 SS multistrand high flex cable. I didn't like the geometry or maximum load either. This is still in use on the lighter board but the lighter board reduced the cable stress.


You might consider Dyneema or other high tech line as replacement to the original wire.
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Re: Morgan OI 33 keel board

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---- The board seems to be made of steel, 50" tip to tip, 13.5" wide, with a wing shape, thick on one side, thin on the other.
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An asymmetric centerboard? Well, it'll definitely point better on one tack lol.
Unless you mean thick on the leading edge, thin on the trailing edge.
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Re: Morgan OI 33 keel board

Are you sure you don't have one of these? It's a Morgan 34, they were very popular.


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An asymmetric centerboard? Well, it'll definitely point better on one tack lol.
Unless you mean thick on the leading edge, thin on the trailing edge.
Exactly, thick on the leading edge, thin on the trailing.
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Are you sure you don't have one of these? It's a Morgan 34, they were very popular.


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Nope, it is definitely an OI 33. In fact I have the original manuals, not only for the boat but everything else. It is a '73, and the second owner bought it in '76, and kept it until 2014. He raced it up in the NY harbor and off Long Island.

Yea, I know, raced it??? The OI 33 is not exactly a racing boat right?

So get this, I went to sign the papers to buy and when I got back to the boat his son and DIL was standing in front of the boat looking at it. So I met the son of the man who owned the boat from 1976-2014. This young man had spent many summers on the boat, sailing it around off NY. We exchanged phone numbers and Email.
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Re: Morgan OI 33 keel board

We have an OI33 across the pier from us.



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But does it have a centerboard?
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Yes, there were a couple OI 33's with a board on the early models and as I recall there were only a couple ordered. You will want to use it as it will make a huge difference up wind. As far as racing, I did OK in the 90's when I owned a OI 33 if there was any kind of wind, since the handicap was awesome. With a centerboard, it would almost be cheating as there is not a separate handicap.

If the cable breaks, you are OK until you back on it. Moving forward, it will just ride over anything down there. It does not need a big line, just strong enough to pull it up. If it breaks, pretty easy to drop another one down, dive the boat and tie it off.
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Yes, there were a couple OI 33's with a board on the early models and as I recall there were only a couple ordered. You will want to use it as it will make a huge difference up wind. As far as racing, I did OK in the 90's when I owned a OI 33 if there was any kind of wind, since the handicap was awesome. With a centerboard, it would almost be cheating as there is not a separate handicap.

If the cable breaks, you are OK until you back on it. Moving forward, it will just ride over anything down there. It does not need a big line, just strong enough to pull it up. If it breaks, pretty easy to drop another one down, dive the boat and tie it off.
Well yea but it is 80 lbs if it is an ounce. I picked it up and carried it onto my boat but it wasn't light. And the little string looks like it would break at 20 lbs. The CB doesn't appear to be balanced, the shaft it hangs on is 6" from one end. Of course I haven't a clue how it works down there.

The people involved (PO and broker) tell me that the 2nd owner modified the boat but I doubt that. I would bet that it was ordered from the factory that way.

The old owner's son said he was passing my contact info to his dad so perhaps some day I will get to talk to or even meet him.
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Well yea but it is 80 lbs if it is an ounce. I picked it up and carried it onto my boat but it wasn't light. And the little string looks like it would break at 20 lbs. The CB doesn't appear to be balanced, the shaft it hangs on is 6" from one end. Of course I haven't a clue how it works down there.

The people involved (PO and broker) tell me that the 2nd owner modified the boat but I doubt that. I would bet that it was ordered from the factory that way.

The old owner's son said he was passing my contact info to his dad so perhaps some day I will get to talk to or even meet him.
I am trying to find the contact information from an old friend who has an OI 41 that has a CB. That is where I got my information from. I recall the rope was like 1/4" even on the 41, it only needed to be strong enough to pull the board up and down.

Even though the boards make the OI's behave much better to windward, most of the fleet was built for the Charter Industry and they really didn't care that the boat was not a great sailing boat to weather, but how many could you sleep. So most of the boats left the factory pretty basic and there were very few owners versions as most people hated the design when it came out and thought Charlie Morgan had completely lost his mind.

Did you get a survey? Even if you were not there for it, they should have taken pictures in the sling with it down and see the connection point and how it works/condition. If not, lower the board, put on a mask and dive under your boat and you will see how simple it is to change the line when needed.
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Re: Morgan OI 33 keel board

I have the 34 Morgan and broke the ss cable while sailing.. A bugger to get back up.
Replaced the SS cable with AmSteel line. It been on for seven years and still like new.
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