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Old 23-09-2008, 12:00   #31
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Fishspearit,
Check the 3rd post down in this thread and you'll see sheet bend mentioned.
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Old 23-09-2008, 12:02   #32
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The One-Handed Bowline (Right Handed):
The One Handed Bowline

Or (Left Handed):

The One Handed Bowline
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Old 23-09-2008, 12:20   #33
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i would love to see more of these at the marina

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I have found the buntline hitch to be useful to attach the sheetlines to the jib as it is a low profile knot (see Animated Knots by Grog). I use it exclusively in this application and have not had a problem with jamming as you can "cam" the second turn.
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Old 23-09-2008, 14:48   #35
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i would love to see more of these at the marina

Why - two things wrong as far as I am concerned. You have used a jamming turn, which in extremis will almost certainly do what the name implies - jam

But the biggest problem especially in a big raft of boats is that you may have 5 or 6 different lines all secured on that one cleat from different boats. If you secure this way, and are the first boat in, but first out, you will have to cast of all the other boats first - which may not make you very popular!!

secured to the cleat with a bowline at the end of the line will prevent that problem, and allow the rest of the string to be retained onboard.

You may have been lulled into this way of doing things cause you dont raft up to other boats as much as has to happen in some ports in southern UK/France. I have seen some rafts nine boats deep.
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Old 23-09-2008, 15:02   #36
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"Animated Knots by Grog", great page! Thanks.
I could not find my "Circus Knot" there, but, the "Truckers Hitch Variation" is the same if you replace the first step with a one handed slip knot, which will not slip while under tension. Quick & Easy!
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My wife swears by the wedding bend. Once that knot is tied drawing money out of a tight wallet has been no problem...
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My wife swears by the wedding bend. Once that knot is tied drawing money out of a tight wallet has been no problem...
I thought I had found a solution to that, trouble is she is still costing just as much, but the lawyer is also nearly as expensive. $24,000 so far and no end in sight
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BTW, tell me the difference between a sheet bend and a bowline?
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Is this a trick question? A bowline is tied on the end of a line, a bend is made between two different lines.
Sort of trick question - you are quite correct in your explanation.

The point I was making is that the structure of the two knots are essentially the same. Cut the large loop of a bowline (not the loop where it "goes around the tree" ) and now you have two ropes joined by a sheet bend..

I like the double sheet bend as it remains easier to undo (cf the single sheetbend) if the knot has been heavily loaded.

Hmmm... just thinking aloud - perhaps I should try a "double bowline" and load it up to see if it easier to undo than the normal bowline.
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... Hmmm... just thinking aloud - perhaps I should try a "double bowline" and load it up to see if it easier to undo than the normal bowline.
Also see the Water Bowline, which is similar to the Double-Knotted Bowline.

Water Bowline
Adding a second small loop to a Bowline, then passing the end of the rope through that small loop, adds more security to the Bowline. It also makes the Bowline less likely to jam when wet, hence the name of this knot.
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I often use a figure of eight on the bight or sometimes a figure of nine if I want a loop that is secure without weakening the rope too much. I won't use a normal clove hitch since I lost a big patch of fish because the dinghy was tied up with a clove hitch with a couple of hitches. After this we spliced an eye onto the end and used two turns and two half hitches. The splice prevented the rope from pulling through with the jerking. Never had a problem after that in the four more years I worked in that fishery. I tend to use a sheet bend with an extra wrap on an eye splice for long term security. Tied up our netboat to a moring and never had problems. Don't particularly like the bowline but sometimes use a bowline on the bight. I feel it is too hard on the rope.
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