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15-01-2015, 13:38
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
Howdy Folks!
I am so glad to see so many good comments added to this topic discussion by so many people who have knowledge of the topic and those with experience in the areas.
Good to see a "gun thread" that has facts, useful info for a cruiser, reasonable and civil discussion, and is not political.
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15-01-2015, 13:48
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#32
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
This video was posted in another thread recently. I found it interesting to see the size of the Polar Bear in relation to the dinghy.
http://youtu.be/rikNa_0-4z4
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/rikNa_0-4z4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Sorry, I don't know how to embed the video box/player on this forum. If someone will tell me, I will learn. I simply copied and pasted the Youtube URL after clicking "Share" on youtube. Then I tried with the "embed" link from youtube.
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15-01-2015, 14:13
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
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Originally Posted by travellerw
Rob is correct on every item except the caliber of a trappers gun. My grandfather was permitted to carry any caliber as long as it was not concealed. The gun was primarily for protection against wolves and black bears, not dispatching game. I know he used it on at least 4 occasions.. Northern Canada can be a wild place.
He was required to follow very strict rules. Once off the trap line it had to be locked up. Even traveling back home in a vehicle.
Anyway.. I think the fact is, the places where you can carry a gun (without issues) while cruising can be counted on one hand.
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Yes your are correct travellerw,
My brother in law still runs a trap line and is a OPP officer and clarified where I went wrong. His grandfather had a 22 calibre to shoot fishers but preferred a rifle for wolves.
Sorry for posting the wrong info
Rob
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15-01-2015, 14:19
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
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Originally Posted by Cheechako
I'm not sure I would want to try to stop a Grizzly or Polar bear with a shot gun. You'd have to be damn close. A slug has terrible velocity and looses what it has very quickly.
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Actually most people expirenced and knowledgeable with the bush or the north know how effective a 12 gauge is. As far as slugs are concerned, I've taken deer at 35 yards, and sabotted slugs I've seen deer taken at 100. I'd rather have a shotgun than a rifle if there is a threatening bear in the area.
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15-01-2015, 14:45
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
In general, the only firearms allowed for wilderness protection (in Canada) are non-restricted rifles and shotguns. The following individuals, provided they are Canadian residents and have a licence that allows them to possess restricted firearms, may be authorized to carry a handgun or restricted long gun for wilderness protection:
- licensed professional trappers, and
- individuals who need protection from wild animals while working at their lawful occupation, most often in a remote wilderness location.
More ➥ Using a Firearm for Wilderness Protection - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
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15-01-2015, 14:51
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#36
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
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Originally Posted by Julie Mor
If you are going anywhere there will be bears, bring this lady with you
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You can bring this guy too, looks like he can pull his weight on a line but he might get expensive if you have to provide food and vodka:
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15-01-2015, 15:18
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
In my youth I was fortunate enough to spend a couple seasons in what was then the NWT in Canada and lived for a period of time in an Innuit community between bouts of traveling in the wild and have seen polar bears.
One story that was told to me stands out in my memory. It was the story told by a man who was missing most of his scalp about his experience losing his head to a bear that had been playing hide-and-seek with him behind an ice pressure ridge.
At the end of his story he offered me some advice about what to do when encountering bears which follows - if you see a polar bear and he is looking directly at you, then you need not worry so much as if he is not looking at you directly.
He if is not looking at you directly, he is pretending not to notice you because he is trying to trick you. You should be afraid.
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15-01-2015, 16:02
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
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Originally Posted by Delancey
In my youth I was fortunate enough to spend a couple seasons in what was then the NWT in Canada and lived for a period of time in an Innuit community between bouts of traveling in the wild and have seen polar bears.
One story that was told to me stands out in my memory. It was the story told by a man who was missing most of his scalp about his experience losing his head to a bear that had been playing hide-and-seek with him behind an ice pressure ridge.
At the end of his story he offered me some advice about what to do when encountering bears which follows - if you see a polar bear and he is looking directly at you, then you need not worry so much as if he is not looking at you directly.
He if is not looking at you directly, he is pretending not to notice you because he is trying to trick you. You should be afraid.
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Very good advice and it translates to predatory behavior in black bears and grizzlies as well. It must be an ursine trait.
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15-01-2015, 16:07
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
I went out with one particular Spanish woman who was very beautiful.
If she was looking at you, be very afraid.
If she was not looking at you, be very afraid.
If she was in next room and talking to you, be very afraid.
I was afraid.
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15-01-2015, 16:13
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
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Originally Posted by Delancey
In my youth I was fortunate enough to spend a couple seasons in what was then the NWT in Canada and lived for a period of time in an Innuit community between bouts of traveling in the wild and have seen polar bears.
One story that was told to me stands out in my memory. It was the story told by a man who was missing most of his scalp about his experience losing his head to a bear that had been playing hide-and-seek with him behind an ice pressure ridge.
At the end of his story he offered me some advice about what to do when encountering bears which follows - if you see a polar bear and he is looking directly at you, then you need not worry so much as if he is not looking at you directly.
He if is not looking at you directly, he is pretending not to notice you because he is trying to trick you. You should be afraid.
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Gives me the creeps just thinking about it. No doubt I'll be branded as anecdotal- but I have a good bush storey.
I was on a search and rescue call (ccg). We were on a shoreline search looking for remains. My partner and I went ashore in a 10' Avon somewhere near penatanguishene armed With our flashlights and our seamans knives.
It was around 3 in the morning- April. I clambered up the steep icey shoreline first. my partner waited on the beach.
His eyes went wide as I dove over the bank- eyes wide with terror.
He said "what is it man?"
I responded "swan! Is a nesting Swan and she's pissed!".
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15-01-2015, 17:15
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
You can get closer to game if you don't stare at it. I had a buck walk up to me, under 10 feet, just watched him, slight of center, with my eyes just below the brim.
As a kid I walked across a marsh and picked up a bitten, I approached is kinda circular, never looking directly at it. I let it go and it flew away.
Guess my wife is right when she calls me an old bear!
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15-01-2015, 17:29
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
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Originally Posted by hpeer
You can get closer to game if you don't stare at it. I had a buck walk up to me, under 10 feet, just watched him, slight of center, with my eyes just below the brim.
As a kid I walked across a marsh and picked up a bitten, I approached is kinda circular, never looking directly at it. I let it go and it flew away.
Guess my wife is right when she calls me an old bear!
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Cool!
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15-01-2015, 18:09
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
Helicopter pilots will tell you, we're genetically hard-wired to recognize faces against all the clutter. Always been a big fan of Arcimboldo. Might seem like a cliche today, but that cliche comes from somewhere. He's the guy.
Giuseppe Arcimboldo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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15-01-2015, 18:13
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#44
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
I worked with a guy stationed an ice berg. He said they had to go out in groups and everyone had an m1 carbine. I would guess grabbing them by the barrel and beating a polar bear to death was the idea.
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15-01-2015, 18:17
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Re: Locations Where Guns Are Required by Authorities
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Originally Posted by Delancey
Helicopter pilots will tell you, we're genetically hard-wired to recognize faces against all the clutter. Always been a big fan of Arcimboldo. Might seem like a cliche today, but that cliche comes from somewhere. He's the guy.
Giuseppe Arcimboldo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Never heard of him before, but cool illustration.
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