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03-05-2010, 16:19
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#196
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,512
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I like the fact that everything on the counter was still on the counter....lol......i2f
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03-05-2010, 16:20
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CF Adviser

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North America
Posts: 9,779
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Okay, guys, let's pull it back a bit, if you don't mind. It's starting to get personal and unpleasant. As far as who can post in what Forum, you all know by now that any member may post in any Forum, so let's just set that old argument aside, please. It would be a shame to close this thread, and it won't be necessary, if everyone can maintain a civil tone.
Thank you for your cooperation.
TaoJones
PS: Unfortunate timing, i2f - this post is obviously not directed at you.
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03-05-2010, 16:29
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#198
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TaoJones
Okay, guys, let's pull it back a bit, if you don't mind. It's starting to get personal and unpleasant. As far as who can post in what Forum, you all know by now that any member may post in any Forum, so let's just set that old argument aside, please. It would be a shame to close this thread, and it won't be necessary, if everyone can maintain a civil tone.
Thank you for your cooperation.
TaoJones
PS: Unfortunate timing, i2f - this post is obviously not directed at you.
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Of course not.....I was a good boy this time  ...... i2f
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03-05-2010, 16:47
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#199
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck
Posts: 5,558
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Quote:
Originally Posted by imagine2frolic
Of course not.....I was a good boy this time  ...... i2f
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heh. miracles never CEASE!!
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ain't what ya do, it's the way that ya do it...
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03-05-2010, 16:50
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#200
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
Boat: Back to just the Jon boat.
Posts: 5,373
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meyermm
The waves in the video do not look all that big regardless of boat that was my point.
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I have some recent videos of our April adventure.
The waves were not as big nor were the winds but the videos are singularly unimpressive none the less.
Why is it that whether you "gimball" the camera or lock to a boat part it still does not show how big the waves really are.
I don't know.
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03-05-2010, 17:12
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#201
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CF Adviser

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: North America
Posts: 9,779
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
Why is it that whether you "gimball" the camera or lock to a boat part it still does not show how big the waves really are.
I don't know.
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It's because a camera can only render 3D into a two-dimensional image. You'll notice the same thing in pictures taken on the side of a sheer mountain wall, looking straight down thousands of feet. For all the obvious drama, it still looks unimpressive. It just doesn't translate well in a two dimensional format.
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03-05-2010, 17:29
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#202
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sarafina
heh. miracles never CEASE!!
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Be careful young lady. When we get home you'll have to deal with me directly  ....  .... i2f
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03-05-2010, 18:42
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#203
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Wherever the wind blows
Boat: Catalac Catamaran
Posts: 2,348
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TaoJones
....you all know by now that any member may post in any Forum,...
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Interesting... As I recall, the reason Andy gave us this area was to give us a place to communicate with other multi owners while escaping attacks on our boats. What exactly would you suggest?
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03-05-2010, 19:45
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#204
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Boat: Will be a 50' Cat
Posts: 380
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I have essentially no experience compared to most of you all, BUT, what little I do have tells me that sailing in following seas (earlier Video) is hugely different than beating to the wind... When I took a 38 ft CAT against the gulf stream and 20kts of wind, we could barely stand up... pots and pans were flying along with everything else not tied down... it was really rough CAT or MONO cause the guys behind us were having just as rough a time in a 50' MONO... SO, my lesson learned was... if you don't beat windward, a CAT is pretty comfortable... Otherwise, hang on...
my 2 cents..
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03-05-2010, 23:36
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#205
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Brisbane
Boat: deboated
Posts: 672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meyermm
The waves in the video do not look all that big regardless of boat that was my point. If they were then I must have underestimated the size of waves I have sailed through aboard a mono without a problem?
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Please reread my post "regardless of boat" and I apologise for not having sailed through bad weather on a Cat.
My point was the seas did not look as big as described and that is what I wrote but as usual your over sensitivity took over.
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03-05-2010, 23:55
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#206
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: sf bay area
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But he said.... and then I said....
wait a minute - what was the question again???
Oh, nevermind.
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04-05-2010, 03:55
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#207
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,512
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No matter what kind of platform the pic is taken from. The waves always look MUCH SMALLER than the reality........i2f
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04-05-2010, 05:27
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#208
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,295
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onedaysoon
I'm a "lurker", and don't often feel I have much to contribute or say, but just wanted to say - nice video ! Agree with Tropic Cat's comment about drogues though.
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Another video worth watching:
YouTube - Ovive sailing fast in the South Pacific
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04-05-2010, 05:30
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#209
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Magothy Marina, Severna Park, MD
Boat: Tayana 37 Cutter - "Symbiosis"
Posts: 2,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tropic Cat
Interesting... As I recall, the reason Andy gave us this area was to give us a place to communicate with other multi owners while escaping attacks on our boats. What exactly would you suggest?
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The moderators have made this quite clear in the past. ANYONE can post in ANY forum. Period.
Besides, as I have pointed out, many current monohullers (myself included) have more-than-trivial seatime on cats. That qualifies us regardless.
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04-05-2010, 07:25
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#210
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Netherlands, Holland
Boat: Just sold Sigma 33 OOD, will be chartering in Croatia soon
Posts: 273
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meyermm
The waves in the video do not look all that big regardless of boat that was my point. If they were then I must have underestimated the size of waves I have sailed through aboard a mono without a problem?
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If you've been out there in choppy weather and made pictures or videos I'm sure you have to agree that experiencing the waves first hand is not represented in your movies or pictures. I have made many a 'big wave' picture (a lot on mono's but recently some cat pictures too) that do not look spectacular at home (we were in 35 knots). I always try and am always disappointed about the results. The video on the forum shows waves a lot bigger than on our own video's; I guess there was a lot more wind than 35 knots.
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