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Old 14-10-2016, 18:15   #31
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Re: Is this why sailing along Washington/Oregon Coast in the fall is discouraged?

This is why sailing along the pnw from Oct-Feb is generally a bad idea.

Terrific author (and friend of mine), telling a tragically true tale.

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Old 14-10-2016, 18:29   #32
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Re: Is this why sailing along Washington/Oregon Coast in the fall is discouraged?

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I think that people don't get how serious they are, since they're not hurricanes, or named storms. Along with the part that many of them get hardly any press including on many forecasting sites. As with this one, & the other two, I’ve even been to some NOAA sites where, incredibly, there’s little to no mention of them. And given that it’s not uncommon to have a big storm every few days from now until spring, they’re not trendy news.

Also, the population density on the NW Coast is much lower than back east, or down in SoCal, so the news demand is smaller. And less people = less ratings = less income for the TV News stations. That & of course pics of tragedy sell, so if a storm tears apart structures that shoot well on camera…

People kind of get how serious they are if you use the 100mph or kts figure. Along with telling them that many winter storms in the area get birthed in the area in between Russia & Alaska. Or that the storms span from the Aleutians to BC. But things like wave height & period usually only make sense to surfers. Who else flies 5,000nm just to see waves? As not even sailors often grasp how big a 35’ wave is, especially since wave height is measured from the back.
Just tell folks that the waves are the size of strip malls, & that they’re several houses high. That sometimes works

they are cyclonic zombie storms which are leftover west pacific typhoons . they used to have names and they still retain the cyclonic structure.
no eye, just a cold heart and a lot of nasty.
in cyclonic formation.
but they ARE cyclonic remnants called correctly zombie storms.
if you look and study cyclonic storms, you can actually watch em cross over to pnw from japan.
goes shows.
pnw peeps please keep watching these supertyphoons coming at you-- look at them and study em so you donot get maimed or tortured by em

go look in storm 2k and read about the typhoons and study goes to watch their progress. i have been saying for years these are cyclonic with folks here in cf bashing me for it.

btw--these go to san diego an dso cal-- it was these that broke windows out of portofino inn(second story and first floor) in redondo beach and trashed much of west coast regularly in el nino and la nina years.
those in so cal expecting a dry winter--best buy weather gear">foul weather gear. and uggs.
oh yeah--we clocked winds at 95 mph in some of these when we were still in san diego.
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Re: Is this why sailing along Washington/Oregon Coast in the fall is discouraged?

Uncivilized said " As not even sailors often grasp how big a 35’ wave is, especially since wave height is measured from the back. Just tell folks that the waves are the size of strip malls, & that they’re several houses high. That sometimes works"

We were anchored in Neah Bay (NW tip of Washington State just inside Cape Flattery at the west entrance to the Straits of Juan de Fuca) headed for Cape Scott. There had been NW gales for two days in the Straits. The gales had been blowing SSE from the Aleutian Islands 1000 NM across the NE Pacific toward Cape Flattery for several days before that.

Day three I climbed on the cabin top to peer toward the Straights of Juan de Fuca and commented to a fellow boater who was visiting our boat. "There is sure a lot of big freighter and tanker traffic headed eastbound in the straits."

Friend had been the XO on the 175' USCG buoy tender Fir out of Seattle. He had made many transits of the straits and knew those were not freighters. He handed me the binoculars for a closer look.

The freighters were actually very big long period swells marching eastward.

The next day I was impatient to leave for the 225 NM mile trip NW to Cape Scott. An hour later we were going up and up and over 20' long period swells. The swells were so large the main was completely blanketed in the troughs. The swell crests were at least 20-seconds apart. They were smooth as silk with no white water or break at the crest. Just small hillocks rolling toward the SE.

Our 50 HP Yanmar running at 2800 RPM could not keep the boat speed above 4 knots going up the swell. Going down the backside - I had to pull it back to idle to keep from picking up too much speed.

An hour later, with the swells only getting bigger as we got further offshore I wanted to turn our 40' cutter around.

It was a real challenge turning the boat broadside to those swells.

Two days later we again left Neah Bay for a succesful sail to the north end of Vancouver Island at 52N.
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Re: Is this why sailing along Washington/Oregon Coast in the fall is discouraged?

Biggest example of false advertising ever...the Pacific.
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Yup, the shizzle people are interested for their news is how Kim Kardashian got tied up and thrown in the bathtub. And that my folks is America these days.
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Re: Is this why sailing along Washington/Oregon Coast in the fall is discouraged?

pacific is beautiful and almost flat .
until a storm agitates and angers it--wow. 50 ft seas in pnw storms were not uncommon just a few years ago.
50 ft seas could well become most incredibly memorable.....
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