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Old 08-02-2016, 06:59   #31
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Re: Is It Rude To Tag Along

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not dumb at all - you have to scroill to the bottom of all the replies and there's a button marked "new thread" - not easy to find ....
Actually there isn't a "new thread" button at the bottom of any thread page using my browser - just "new post".

Only "new thread" buttons I've found are at the top and bottom of each forum & sub-forum category.

Not surprised it's hard to find for new users. If you just scan "new posts" you never see a thread starter button as far as I know.

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Old 08-02-2016, 14:39   #32
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I totally get the ARC.
I went on half a world ARC before I bought this boat and I loved it.

Its pretty damn exciting to be doing 3,000nm races. Its exciting being in a port with a bunch of friends. And its great having the back up and support in far off places.

See what I mean..!!

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Old 10-02-2016, 05:00   #33
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Re: Is It Rude To Tag Along

We recently crossed the Atlantic with the Islands Odyssey and would do it again. I know not everyone likes to travel with rallies. We weren't big on it ourselves and were turned off by the price and magnitude of the ARC. We were going to sail with the Atlantic Odyssey but wanted to stop in Cape Verde. They must have read my mind because they added the Islands Odyssey in 2015 with plans for more stops in 2016, Barbados 50.

We have a small son onboard and the social events were kind of important. We were cruising the mediterranean where kid boats were extremely rare. Our son was unhappy and we were ready to pull the plug on the entire adventure. It was such a relief to pull into Lanzarote where he met loads of other kids. They played together while the parents were preparing for the crossing and almost all of the boats with kids were in one rally or another.

It was cost effective. Our insurer gave us a small discount for joining the Odyssey. Our friend on the ARC said the insurance discount practically paid for the ARC entry fee. While the ARC is a few thousand dollars the Odyssey is 400-500 (and less if you have kids onboard). It's a refreshing alternative to something that used to be free and voluntary. I factored in the cost of marina berths of the Odyssey compared to if we go it alone and I think they might make about a $100/boat. No idea what they pay staff but they aren't making much profit for how well organised it is.

Sometimes its not an emergency, you just need a little help. Our friend's engine was belching thick black smoke and the rally organisers were able to put him in contact with a mechanic over the sat phone. When that didn't solve the problem they also had a mechanic waiting for him upon his arrival. Need doctors advice on a bit of medication you bought in a foreign land? Not every situation requires the EPIRB be popped. The rally is good for those situations. Call the MRCC for the serious ones.

The daily position reports were handy. We could see we were travelling in a loose pack of 4 boats that were 10-30 miles apart. Sometimes you couldn't see them, not even on AIS but you knew they were close by. We even tried to set up a mid-Atlantic fish swap meet. They had plenty of Mahi and we were loosing plenty of lures. It helped with the weather routing. If you saw a rally boat that was gaining speed you could determine where the good winds were blowing.

Our rally pulled into Bridgetown, Barbados. We shook hands, hugged, a show was put on for us and we were interviewed by the schoolchildren about our experience. We were handed a nice fat jug of rum punch and a few husks of coconut water. And it made us feel really special, like we worked for 2 weeks straight and accomplished something.
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Re: Is It Rude To Tag Along

I am not sure what you mean by tag along.

You can sail it on your own.

You can sail it with the ARC.

You can tag along, or not.

Or is it that by now some people think that the Atlantic can only be crossed with the crutches?

I wonder how Columbus did it.

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Re: Is It Rude To Tag Along

The question is: "Is It Rude To Tag Along?".

Well yes, it is rude to tag along with a bunch of people who have paid thousands of dollars to travel in an organized group.

It's not illegal though so it's up to you to decide if being rude bothers you.

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