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Old 23-06-2012, 17:25   #46
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

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If there is Seagull poop on it, it's a boat. if not, it may be a yacht.
Sailboat if it has sails, Yacht if it has hot chicks and a mortgage,

I have a friend who calls his boat a yacht, which it is by definition, but he does it to draw attention. "I own a yacht!" type of thing.

Mine is a boat.
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Old 04-09-2012, 16:10   #47
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

Interesting to see this debate. I had this discussion on the docks with a guy who had a big ketch, which he paid a hundred grad for.

I figured that a yacht had cooking and sleeping quarters and toiletry facilities, something you could live on.

He, unsurprisingly and coincidentally, figured that to be called a yacht it had to be worth a hundred grand.

We did have a bit of fun with his arbitrary figure though; what if the boat was worth a hundred grand at the time of sale, but was now only worth $50k ? What rate of inflation would the arbitrary number be tied to? Who was in charge of determining the arbitrary dollar figure? What currency was the root currency it was priced in? US dollars converted to other currencies, Canadian dollars, Euros?

The conversation went around and around in circles.

I beleive that the sleeping quarters, cooking facilities, and head on a pleasure boat is what makes a yacht a yacht. Hence we see powerboat manufacturers ensuring to put the words "Motoryacht" right on the side so that there is no question to the casual onlooker whether it is a yacht or a boat. Motorboaters were getting tired of having the same quarters as sailboaters and hearing that their boats were not in fact yachts, I guess, due to the original designation (as mentioned by an above poster) in the UK of whether you have a motorboat or a yacht (ie. sailing boat).

I do not think that it is the boating community at large that gave the term "yacht" a wealth-related impression, I think rather that it was the very wealthy peoeple who drop rediculous money on a boat that go around flaunting about their "yacht" that did, or perhaps those who were jealous of those who have enough money to have a yacht.

Keeping a boat is expensive stuff, sailboats and powerboats alike (sailboats for rigging and maintenance, powerboats for the fuel) so really, if you're in the sailing or boating club with a boat big enough to have sleeping quarters, cooking facilities, and a restroom or head then you're certainly not broke.

Wealth is relative. A yacht is a yacht no matter how much it costs.
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

I was thinking of this old thread this past weekend when the BIG boats were going past me at high speeds.

Since I have fairly big boat my new definition is - if you NEED a crew to sail/operate the boat, its' a yacht. If your wife and yourself can do it just fine, its' a boat!

PS - where I was in the US navy the difference between a boat and ship was whether it could carry enoung supplies to stay out. Which is why a sub is still called a boat even though that now that they are nuclear can go go around the world without even surfacing. So if you can not go as far as a nuclear sub without supply etc, you are a boat!
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

depends where you are. In NZ, when i was growing up, anything with sails was a yacht, any thing without sails was a boat. But in the wider world the use of either label is arbitrary.
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depends where you are. In NZ, when i was growing up, anything with sails was a yacht, any thing without sails was a boat. But in the wider world the use of either label is arbitrary.
I reckon Charlie has got it. It depends on where you are in the world. In the US, a yacht has a bit of pretentiousness about it. In the UK, Australia and NZ, if it floats, has a sail, head, bunk and galley, it is a yacht. Without any pretentiousness. Might be covered in rust, with rags for sails, but it is still a yacht.

In the US, the term cruiser is replaced in the other countries with yachtie. Or grottie yachtie! In Oz, the term live aboard and sailboat are not common.

This forum has members mainly from the US. So obviously there is lots of US terminology, US spelling, etc.

So outside the US, but still in the English speaking world, it is always a yacht.
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Old 04-09-2012, 18:07   #51
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

To me a yacht is defined by the number of shower heads in one stateroom.
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

LLoyd's says that my 22' Westerly Nomad is a yacht!

So pass the box of wine, and put an umbrella in it so I can 'Be Somebody'!

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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

Porter's law:
A yacht is a boat on which someone else does all the work.
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LLoyd's says that my 22' Westerly Nomad is a yacht!

So pass the box of wine, and put an umbrella in it so I can 'Be Somebody'!

Reinforced Plastic Yacht, Does that mean it wont sink in the bath, Hahahahaha
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Reinforced Plastic Yacht, Does that mean it wont sink in the bath, Hahahahaha
It hasn't yet!
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

In NZ if we say we own a boat the next question is usually "Is it a yacht or a launch?" (motorboat). No matter what size it is, if it has sails it is a yacht.

To own a yacht you are then classed as a yachtie or a boatie but to own a launch you are a boatie only.

When I was a kid growing up I could never figure out why the Royal Yacht Britannia and others like her did not have sails

Different strokes for different folks I guess...........


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I tell women I have a Yacht, a BMW, and a Mercedes.
But it's only a matter of time before they find out I have a floating $7k "renovators' delight", a 1978 Beemer Rustbucket (unregistered), and a Merc Van.
After that, I go look for another woman...
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I tell women I have a Yacht, a BMW, and a Mercedes.
But it's only a matter of time before they find out I have a floating $7k "renovators' delight", a 1978 Beemer Rustbucket (unregistered), and a Merc Van.
After that, I go look for another woman...

I like that, Hahahahahaha
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

Bank says it's a yacht to justify those enormous interest rates!
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Re: Is it a Boat or a Yacht?

A "yacht" becomes a "nice little boat" if the owner I speak with thinks he is some special specimen because he owns one.
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