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Old 20-12-2010, 07:39   #286
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Nice Link and thanks Del. It explains a lot of the details of installing and using this system. I also saw another system like this, but that one used a topside hydraulic drill to do the down under work.

The main thing is that the anchor system is simple, fast and works. It holds promise for those of us who are looking for a simple mooring system we could actually install ourselves - almost anywhere.

I also want to introduce something, but not to confuse, I will relate in new post.,
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The main thing is that the anchor system is simple, fast and works. It holds promise for those of us who are looking for a simple mooring system we could actually install ourselves - almost anywhere.
How about one of you smarter guys coming up with a portable screw deal driven by pressurized air from a scuba cylinder? And please send the first one to me.

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You can make this simple. The hardest issue if the helix anchor and that is not that hard as there are makers of these. What you want is a air driven square drive 1" impact ratchet acting on a 1" square shaft that connects to the head of the helix anchor. Easy.

Or since you like air...make a suction pile anchor like the big rig boys use offshore. air to vacuum is easy the main thing is the control valve at the bottom. It needs to operate in both directions...suction and pressure to release the pile.
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well said Lex...its always about money, thus this new sub-topic. There is strength in numbers. There is strength in money. There is strength in God.

I suggest an association for cruising. A quick review of the existing associations I found here National Boating Organizations suggests none have the cruising and weekend sailing enthusiast in mind. We need representation as Lex so elequently pointed out and we all agree that none of them are doing a good job of promoting the needs of cruisers on the state and national level.

Any takers?

be developed which would over arch all recreational boating...including cruising.
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You can make this simple. The hardest issue if the helix anchor and that is not that hard as there are makers of these. What you want is a air driven square drive 1" impact ratchet acting on a 1" square shaft that connects to the head of the helix anchor. Easy.

Or since you like air...make a suction pile anchor like the big rig boys use offshore. air to vacuum is easy the main thing is the control valve at the bottom. It needs to operate in both directions...suction and pressure to release the pile.
Can You be so kind and enlighten me - what Your post #290 have in common with the topic of this thread? I can not catch up...
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Something like this - I believe?
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Sorry Double Whisky,

290 was in reply to 287 on an air powered anchor system. My fault.
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Nice Link and thanks Del. It explains a lot of the details of installing and using this system. I also saw another system like this, but that one used a topside hydraulic drill to do the down under work. The main thing is that the anchor system is simple, fast and works. It holds promise for those of us who are looking for a simple mooring system we could actually install ourselves - almost anywhere.
Simple? That's not what I took from that site. All I saw was high $$ & complications. Even they say: "To install a screw requires time and effort, and has been a hit-and-miss experience...one requires a team of experienced divers, plenty of weight, and determination!"

At out club, we put down our own moorings for just a few hundred dollars, and they last around 6 years before they need to be hauled and repaired with a half day's welding. All that's needed are 6 lengths of steel rod, 20mm diameter and 3 metres long: about $25 each. We have a clever club-made contraption that bends loops in the ends of the rods, which are then joined together - three for each end. The old train wheel rims used for weights are bought at scrap metal price - a couple each end usually suffices. Laying them from our mooring barge is just half a morning's work.

And being an industrial area, we've got no precious grasses to worry about

The screw down moorings may be an option for some... but not around here
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Sorry Double Whisky,

290 was in reply to 287 on an air powered anchor system. My fault.
Not a problem - I was sure I missed something

And regarding Cruising Association - You are right. I believe most of the countries lack one.
May be Brits example is the way to follow?
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At out club, we put down our own moorings for just a few hundred dollars, and they last around 6 years before they need to be hauled and repaired with a half day's welding. All that's needed are 6 lengths of steel rod, 20mm diameter and 3 metres long: about $25 each. We have a clever conraption that bends loops in the ends of the rods, which are then joined together - three for each end. The old train wheel rims used for weights are bought at scrap metal price - a couple each end usually suffices. Laying them from our mooring barge is just half a morning's work.

And being an industrial area, we've got no precious grasses to worry about

The screw down moorings may be an option for some... but not around here
Just a thought - may be it will be better to open new thread for mooring solutions. It's interesting - REALLY - and may be more people will be interested in it probably, but they can not find this discussion under the name of this thread.
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Thanks Double Whisky for the perspective.

I agree that weights are easier in most respects and a more permanent solution. The guy was looking for something a bit more portable....I assume for the use of diving or quick changed.
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