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Old 03-10-2016, 17:18   #61
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Re: Is a survey worth it for a $13,000 sailboat?

Well, quick update.
After my good friend (Master Mariner/surveyor/Ocean Ticket dude) you get the idea--looked it over.
I decided to go for it.
He found a lot of cosmetic stuff. Couple of small deck problems. Nothing that gave red flags of a break the deal problem.

Yanmar 30 great.
They hired (complete yacht service) out of Ft Lauderdale to do a complete workover of the engine. Replacing oil line that had a pinhole in it. Impeller replaced and tuned up.
Dove the boat. Great. Cutlass great.
Mast-rigging-good. Little older but everything solid.
Sails were pro cleaned and inspected by loft, then folded and stored.

Remember these people were wanting to sail the world at 75 yrs old and never got but 5 miles from purchase to marina in Ft Lauderadale then refitted and never moved in 3 yrs.
I felt for them, the wife was getting emotional and he was not happy either.

Bilge and thru holes rock solid.
Electronics-way great. Never hardly used Garmin 740s with Radar(never used).
VHF-AIS. New standard horizon 2100 with extra remote mic
Boat was wired by marine pro with Magnum 3000wat Inverter/Charger.
All new fore to aft wiring.
Brand new davits.
Brand new Lewmar 1000 pro windlass in box.
2 new CQR 45lb never in water. With new 3/8 chain never in water. Maybe 200ft.
Bunch of shore power lines and dock lines never used.
Crap loads of stainless hardware.
Looks like all of the water/head hoses are maybe 2 yrs old.


Not so good.
Mold from non use. Dirty from some dogs that were on board for 3 months.
Front head not there. Toliet that is.
Ports have all got to be removed.
WIll probably do a deadlight fix on most of them. There are 12 total.
Injectors are a little rusty.
Water pump for P/S fresh water tanks not working.
Nasty carpeting on hulls gotta go.
Main lines and jib lines crappy.
Bad repair job fore on the deck from a vent replacement.
Gotta do some cutting and glassing.
A few stanchion posts have some really bad compression cracks.
Alot of cutting and glassing. Right at the hull/deck edge.

More cleaning-thats about it.

Bringing it down to the Keys this weekend - maybe- storm a brewing.
Its a unfounded boat, so we are gonna take it easy.

Thx for all of your remarks. I am happy to be back on crusiersforum
Been too long.
Peace
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Re: Is a survey worth it for a $13,000 sailboat?

That sounds like great news! Just because a boat is cheap it doesn't mean it's in poor condition or needs a ton of money thrown at it. In fact it's pretty common for seller's to take a loss after they do a lot of work to a boat & that's exactly what you want to find. It's sad for the seller but that's the reality of boat ownership. I still think it would have been wise to haul it to check out the bottom. I dove a ketch we bought & could not tell in the water that it had a lot of blisters. But even if it's got blisters that's not the end of the world. I've done 2 major blister repairs & it's a lot of work but not expensive if you do the work yourself.
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That sounds like great news! Just because a boat is cheap it doesn't mean it's in poor condition or needs a ton of money thrown at it. In fact it's pretty common for seller's to take a loss after they do a lot of work to a boat & that's exactly what you want to find. It's sad for the seller but that's the reality of boat ownership. I still think it would have been wise to haul it to check out the bottom. I dove a ketch we bought & could not tell in the water that it had a lot of blisters. But even if it's got blisters that's not the end of the world. I've done 2 major blister repairs & it's a lot of work but not expensive if you do the work yourself.
Not sure about the chemistry but I found, and have been told too, that for some reason blisters expand when out of the water and shrink when it goes back in.... anyone else found that?
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Not sure about the chemistry but I found, and have been told too, that for some reason blisters expand when out of the water and shrink when it goes back in.... anyone else found that?

That is my little experience, and if left out of the water for very long at all, they will reabsorb or something, but they do disappear.
But sounds like he got a good boat, mine when I surveyed her had some "pox" I believe from a barrier coat that had recently been put on a wet hull, leave the boat to dry out and they quickly went away. Pulled two years ago holding my breath, but most of the pox had gone, not gotten worse.


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