Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 08-09-2013, 18:08   #1
Registered User
 
pessa's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Buying one
Posts: 21
Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

Hi all,
Any of you old hands know how long it will take to sail from Sydney to Mackay and where is worth overnighting on the way to recharge the batteries and soul.
__________________

__________________
"Now the Captain he was dying But the Captain wasn't hurt The silver bars were in my hand I pinned them to my shirt."
pessa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2013, 18:18   #2
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 10,710
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

It depends on how fast your boat is, how you feel about being out overnight, and what length of time you want to spend getting there. During most Australian winters it is easier to get north in a hurry than south, so that, too, might figure into your planning, as would the kinds of places you like to stop. ...I'm saying that there's no responsible way I can answer the question without knowing a lot more about you, your boat, and your plans.

One thing you could do is load Open CPN in your laptop, and figure the length of the course you prefer to follow, then divide the distance by your conservative average boat speed and derive the time required for the distance. Convert the hours to 12 hr. days.
See how your 12 hr. days fit the distances between anchorages.
__________________

__________________
Ann, with Jim, aboard US s/v Insatiable II, in Oz, very long term cruisers
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2013, 18:39   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Currently Tasmania after Pacific crossing
Boat: Catalina 42
Posts: 217
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

Ann is quite right and you also need to consider summer is on the way now and people tend to come south at this time of year to avoid cyclones in the far north.

A good investment would also be Alan Lucas' cruising guides for NSW and Qld showing all ports of call you may want to consider on the way
__________________
Amnesia II is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2013, 19:01   #4
Registered User
 
Reefmagnet's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 2,737
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

Conservatively, I think practically it would take around two weeks with minimal stops. I'm thinking of doing something similar and I would allow a month with stops for weather etc. Don't forget the East Australian current which flows to the south. You need to sail either inside or outside of it to avoid being slowed. Once you get up North later in the year, the wind regularly blows from the NE too which puts it on the nose.

Potential ports of call/points of interest for a break if you'd prefer not to cross some notorious bars would be Port Stephens, Coffs Harbour marina, Gold Coast, Moreton Bay, Sunshine Cost, Great Sandy Straights, Bundaberg, Gladstone, Yeppon/Great Keppel Island, Then onto Mackay with the obligatory stop at the Percy Isles.
__________________
Reefmagnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2013, 19:59   #5
Registered User
 
pessa's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Buying one
Posts: 21
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

Thanks for all replies, 40ft yacht mono hull I reckon average about 4kts and distance Sydney to Mackay aprox about 903nm. I suppose I have answered my own questions but wanted to know about the safer pit stops along the way.

Thanks
Perry
__________________
"Now the Captain he was dying But the Captain wasn't hurt The silver bars were in my hand I pinned them to my shirt."
pessa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2013, 04:42   #6
Registered User
 
2Wind's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 312
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

I've just done the Brisbane Mackay leg of your trip. We left 17:00 Tuesday, arrived Mackay 06:00 Sunday, with a 12hr stop near Urangan in Hervey Bay, an 18hr stop at Lady Musgrave Island/Lagoon, and a 8hr stop at Middle Percy. Great trip with whales everywhere!
If you only want to sail by daylight then I'd suggest stops at Mooloolaba, Tin Can Bay/Wide Bay Bar, Urangan (paying close attention to tides through the Sandy Straits), Burnett Heads, Lady Musgrave, Fitzroy Reef, Rosslyn Bay, Middle Percy, Mackay.
Enjoy.
__________________
"Second Wind"
Lagoon 440 Hull #30
Brisbane, Australia.
2Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 15:12   #7
Senior Cruiser
 
44'cruisingcat's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,458
Images: 69
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

Quote:
Originally Posted by pessa View Post
Thanks for all replies, 40ft yacht mono hull I reckon average about 4kts and distance Sydney to Mackay aprox about 903nm. I suppose I have answered my own questions but wanted to know about the safer pit stops along the way.

Thanks
Perry
Places we'll often stop are:

Pittwater
Port Stephens
Forster - bar crossing, but usually good
Camden Haven - ditto
Port Macquarie - also a bar, but more prone to closing - it faces east
Coffs Harbour
Yamba - bar, but deep and usually good
Gold Coast seaway - ALMOST an all weather entrance
Great Sandy Straits - bar crossing, I wouldn't cross in more than 2.5m swell.
Bundaberg
Pancake creek
Island head creek - can be closed by military, check notices to mariners
Curlew Island

From there we go on north, not Mackay.
__________________
44'cruisingcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 19:11   #8
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,466
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

To 44's list I would add:

Gladstone (for a marina fix)
Great Keppel Island
Pearl Bay
Any of several islands in the Cumberland group
Port Clinton

and a host of others.

And let me add my recommendation for any of Alan Lucas's cruising guides... excellent conservative advice for that whole area. Much more detail available in the Curtis Coast cruising guide for the Bundy to Mckay stretch.

Cheers,

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2013, 19:59   #9
Registered User
 
Johnathon123's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Northern NSW Australia
Boat: Maurice Griffiths 40
Posts: 737
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

I would also add Newcastle as a possible stopping point if needed. Yes it is a major shipping port so be ultra alert but they have a fantastic brand new CLEAN yacht club, travelift and shipwright services if needed. They also have a waterfront brewery that you can tie up outside for the night if you need to recharge.

In Port Stephens I would make the effort to head a little further in and stop at Soldiers Point Marina - the most luxurious marina ever (free sundowners for all residents) it is a little way out of town but they have a courtesy vehicle for reprovisioning, again a great shipwright slipway etc.

In Forster, well what can I say, I live just down the road so it must be great. We do have a Bar, which can be aggressive but Marine Rescue guys are great and will give as much advice as they legally can. If you go to there website they also have Bar Cam so you can see for yourself.

In Forster, our Tuncurry side of the channel are lined with piers for single boats or you can anchor on a sandy bottom quite happily. BUT BE AWARE the current here can be a constant 7 - 8 knots. It is a killer so set your alarm on the gps for anchor drag. You can get fresh fish and Ice at the Co-Op as well as diesel (fast flow) and a supermarket is about 10 minutes walk from the waters edge.

Also, don't write off Laurieton, in the right conditions, a lovely spot and you can tie up at the RSL Club wharf right in the middle of the town for a donation. Fantastic seafood at the RSL.

Finally the Lucas Guide is great - get it, you wont regret it.
__________________
James

"I get knocked down but I get up again" eventually.
Johnathon123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2013, 07:36   #10
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 10,710
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

Hello, again, Perry,

I decided to add a bit. As it is usually easier to go northbound on the east Australian Coast, if you're in a hurry, I would tend to hop onto a southerly and ride it as far as it would take me, and keep doing that, with the intention of on the southbound leg, harbor hopping, and even waiting for light or easterly-nor'west through westerly, to to south on.

Some years back, we were advised by an experienced Australian sailing couple to leave Breaksea Spit (north end of Fraser Is.) 5-10 n. mi. to the west, because there is a strong onshore set there. As long as you pay attention, you can pick it up right away, and correct for it.

Another place you can get sucked in a bit is just north of the Burnett River, where a strong easterly flow and an incoming tide can try to set you on the putty before you get to the fairleads to go in there. It won't happen if you pay attention.

A kind soul above mentioned getting Alan Lucas' cruising guides. Yes. We've used them for the past 23 years! Plus, Alan's one of your national treasures, and when he's gone, the cruising guides -- well, who knows who'll write them!

Also, if you have plans of "eventually" cruising offshore, I'd suggest you'd plan at least a double overnighter as part of your trip. You' ll want to wait till you get past Cape Byron northbound, because the EAC is strongest there, usually. But at some point, give yourselves an opportunity to work out a practical watch schedule (Jim and I do 6 on 6 off, others four, three, or two), and see what works best for you. Incidentally, this may change a lot as you work out what allows best renewable rest pattern for you.)

Feel free to ask more questions as you go along.

Ann
__________________
Ann, with Jim, aboard US s/v Insatiable II, in Oz, very long term cruisers
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2013, 01:45   #11
Registered User
 
Johnathon123's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Northern NSW Australia
Boat: Maurice Griffiths 40
Posts: 737
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

I should make a caveat to my earlier post.


Forster is still great, but I went don to the waterfront this morning and the Council in its infinite wisdom has ripped out the visitor berths as part a foreshore regeneration.

Nobody seems to know if they would be replaced (I would say they would have to for the fishos) BUT depending on when you are sailing Forster might be an anchor job (remember the current)

Good luck
__________________
James

"I get knocked down but I get up again" eventually.
Johnathon123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2013, 03:13   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 170
Re: Info Wanted Sailing Sydney NSW to Mackay QLD

Port Stephens
Coffs Harbour
Yamba
South Port
Maloolaba
Bundaberg
Tin Can Bay
Harvey Bay (marina?)
Airlie Beach
Townsville
Cairns
Port Douglas
Cook Town

Two weeks for a quick trip.

Getting a bit late in the season as you will want to be heading south before the end of October to avoid cyclones.
__________________
giant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2013, 05:51   #13
Registered User
 
Mandurah's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Mandurah, Western Australia
Boat: C&C 34
Posts: 37
Rob Starkey gave an excellent presentation on this subject at the Cruising Masterclass at the Sydney Boat Show last month. He has a book called Rob Passage Planner which covers the topic including routes, weather and ports of call etc.
__________________

__________________
Mandurah is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
sail, sailing, sydney, wanted

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 21:37.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.