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15-12-2015, 14:20
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: St Augustine
Boat: '87 Irwin 43
Posts: 245
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ICW shoaling and hazards?
Will be traveling down the ICW from Beaufort, NC to St Augustine departing in a couple days.
Is there a good single source link highlighting specific problem stretches ... shoaling, misplaced channel markers, hazards?
My draft is 5'.
Thanks.
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15-12-2015, 14:38
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Ft Lauderdale Florida
Boat: Catalina 320
Posts: 142
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Active Captain is what I used in August coming down. They also have a Facebook page with cruisers posting daily. They probably have 8 or 10 members in the area now.
Woody
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15-12-2015, 16:27
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#3
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cruising the east coast and Bahamas
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 228
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Another vote for Active Captain combined with Garmin Blue Chart. Have it in the cockpit all the time. This year it seems that SC had the worst stretches, although we went outside for some of NC and all of GA so perhaps that's not a fair assessment.
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15-12-2015, 17:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Charleston, SC
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 212
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Just did New Bern to Charleston a week ago. Active Captain was a huge help. Had it both on iphone and lap top. The iphone is not as good, less detail, but did still help.
Grounded 3 times but was able to ride over the shoaling. I draw 5'-4". Active dredging happening in the area by Isle Of Palms just before Charleston harbor, they've probably dredged the worst part by now
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15-12-2015, 19:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cayuga Lake NY - or on the boat somewhere south of there
Boat: Caliber 40
Posts: 1,355
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
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16-12-2015, 04:03
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: St Augustine
Boat: '87 Irwin 43
Posts: 245
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
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Originally Posted by Spindrift NH
Just did New Bern to Charleston a week ago. Active Captain was a huge help. Had it both on iphone and lap top. The iphone is not as good, less detail, but did still help.
Grounded 3 times but was able to ride over the shoaling. I draw 5'-4". Active dredging happening in the area by Isle Of Palms just before Charleston harbor, they've probably dredged the worst part by now
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Was it in the area of Isle of Palms where you grounded 3 times? If not where plz?
Also in those shallow areas can you say if it's best to favor either the red or green side?
Thanks
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16-12-2015, 04:29
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Charleston, SC
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 212
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
We didn't hit in the IOP. Took advice on active Captain and entered that area at >3' above MLW. I saw 5.6' in one spot through there, right past the dredge.
I hit once in listed problem area in Camp Lejeune, once south of southport at another area with added red/green markers and a third but don't remember the location. Again, all were listed on Active Captain.
Each night we checked Active Captain for hazards on the next day's segment. After grounding in Camp Lejeune, we started to write down notes with bouy numbers and suggested navigation through the hazards. My second grounding was the result of someone radioing me and giving me bad info. The third was just poor timing with the tides.
All of my groundings were on soft mud/sand so with momentum we rode right over the shoals.
Navionics on my iphone was better than my chart plotter for following the channel but my depth sounder was the best tool when finding my way through the problem areas.
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16-12-2015, 08:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: NC
Boat: Bristol 47.7 1985
Posts: 66
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
NC shoaling at Browns Inlet at mile 237 just north of Onslow Co Bridge and Lochwood Folly at mile 237 just south of Southport. Follow day markers, go slow - preferably on rising tide. Salty Southeast Cruisers site (cruisers.net) has posts from Nov on these spots. 5' draw has not been a problem for us.
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16-12-2015, 08:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL
Boat: Lagoon 380, 38', I Dream of Jeanne
Posts: 313
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paperbird
Another vote for Active Captain combined with Garmin Blue Chart. Have it in the cockpit all the time. This year it seems that SC had the worst stretches, although we went outside for some of NC and all of GA so perhaps that's not a fair assessment.
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I just replaced my old Raymarine with Garmin and am very disappointed!!! Garmin charting of the ICW SUCKS!! They don't even have a chart of the St. Augustine Inlet! At least not one with any detail.
Buy Navionics for $9.99 on your phone or iPad, it blows Garmin away.
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16-12-2015, 08:56
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 262
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Went up in the spring from Fort Meyers to Chezpeak. Used active captain as an overlay on my pc based polar navy nav program. Draw 4' 6", never touched once using the active captain advice. Hearty recommendation, and oh so easy.
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16-12-2015, 09:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wherever the boat is!
Boat: Marine Trader 34DC
Posts: 4,619
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Having cruised the ICW for 25 years, we learned early on to use multiple sources for information. Not all are perfect and no one will give you all the info you need. Missing just one piece of information can be inconvenient at the least. You have some suggestions. We often check cruisersnet, Cruisers' Net | Cruisers Helping Cruisers , and because I manage the Navigation Notices for Marinalife, Marinalife: Navigational Notices , I am checking dozens of websites and Local Notice To Mariners daily. Most of these websites, etc. will summarize the most important ones, there are hundreds that come out weekly. So try each and decide which one will give you the information you need to safely navigate. You may find that a combination of these will work for you. Chuck
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16-12-2015, 10:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Alpine, Texas
Boat: Nor'star Flicka 20'
Posts: 59
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Whatever you do, get Boat US or Sea Tow premium insurance. I went aground so many times in the Carolinas and Georgia that it would have bankrupted me had I not had Boat US. My Flicka only draws 3'3" and I was being vigilant!
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16-12-2015, 10:13
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Charleston, SC
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 212
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Tow insurance is an excellent idea, if only for the confidence of navigating the trouble spots. My attitude was to place myself in the best depth/rising tide at the trouble spots and if we got stuck, well "that's why we got tow insurance". I didn't have to make that call but nice knowing.
Sory DolphinBuddy but if you got stuck that many times in the Carolinas, you were getting bad information or something.
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16-12-2015, 10:21
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#14
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Retired musician & 50T master
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ct
Boat: Pisces 21
Posts: 692
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
another vote for Active Captain, overload on my Navimatics Charts & Tides app. Active Captain comments were up to date and much more helpful than any chart, also helped us find good prices on fuel and a few nights at marinas. Active Captain had the best info on bridge times and anchorages too
it was also helpful coming in an inlet in the fog. the charts were useless because the AtoNs are moveable. others in before us left coordinates! we used my iPhone more than the main chart plotter.
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16-12-2015, 10:38
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
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Re: ICW shoaling and hazards???
Garmin is like many others, the base map that comes with it isn't all that good, you have to pay for the premium map to get a good map.
Cost lots of bucks to get one for your plotter, but usually the same map for an app is cheap.
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