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Old 10-09-2014, 15:03   #31
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Another great reason for virtual markers.
That would called a chart.
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Old 11-09-2014, 18:25   #32
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That would called a chart.
Yea but they wouldn't have to stick poles and signs up on every rock!
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Here's the chart I had to work with. Really visible!

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Here's the chart I had to work with. Really visible!

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That doesn't look like any chart of the area I've ever seen. Excellent chart books can be purchased of the area that are of a more appropriate scale. Even so, the rock is on the chart.

I'm sure that I too well make mistakes when I venture into new parts of the world and don't realize they're not like what I'm used to. Your mistake is understandable and human. My only point is that it was your mistake.

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Old 11-09-2014, 21:01   #35
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Here's the chart I had to work with. Really visible!

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I posted a portion of a Canadian Hydrographic Service chart. 1:40,000

There is also a 1:12,000 harbour chart that shows it best.

It is also clear on a 1:80,000 chart. It even shows on 1:525,000 chart of all of Vancouver Island.


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That doesn't look like any chart of the area I've ever seen.
I think that is an Evergreen chart book. I have seen them before.

That rock is also clear on Navionics on both my tablet and my phone.

It is also shown on 3312, the CHS chart book.
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Your mistake is understandable and human. My only point is that it was your mistake.
I would agree with that, except for the understandable part. The chart delmarrey was using is certainly not one that I would consider suitable for navigating in that area. There is no drying information, there are no depth contours, the scale seems pretty large. I see no buoys marked, no lighthouses, no light indicators (Fl6Red etc), no wrecks. If I had only this chart available like you, I would have stuck religiously to the transits and not ventured into the area that you did.

Having up-to-date charts onboard is part of the job, and it is clear they are available for this area. Your fault, I'm afraid.


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So, humility is not understandable?
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Re: I love cruising because it teaches humility

My summary. We are the captains of our ships. Charts, AIS, radar, GPS, lead line, blah, blah... Are all tools. I crash it is my bad. I don't crash it is damned good luck. There is no right or wrong. That's why I sail. It's one opportunity left for me to plan, choose, risk, or not.


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