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Old 15-10-2010, 12:31   #16
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What happens if you are nearly seriosly rich (close but not flashly cashed right up)

and you hire a crew member for your yacht ... and the provisioning happens and you like your $40 per kg beef steak but you would prefer the crew to eat $10 steaks.....


You wash down the steak with $50 bottle of Plonk-a-rama and expect the crew to drink beer?


In one way it sounds reasonable, you've earned your money and wish to splash out. Fine. But can it be done at the table in front of crew?

Steak on one plate, baked beans on the other?


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Old 15-10-2010, 14:02   #17
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But can it be done at the table in front of crew?

Steak on one plate, baked beans on the other?


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Old 15-10-2010, 14:38   #18
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Very plush Mark - 2 plates? We give our crew one color coded dog bowl, a spork, and a color coded insulated mug with a tight cap. Anything else is charter and the rates you don't want to know.
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Well, the crew do not eat with the officers. On some new, smaller boats, they will. But, given the long story of sailing, it is a novelty and surely will pass by, like other fancies.

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Hi OzSkipper.
If your looking for an 'actual cost' answer, then I woulld tell you that when doing deliveries I charge €15 per person a day subsistance. It doesnt sound much but when at sea the consumed food and water does'nt amount to that much per person, leaving the balance for a meal and a couple of drinks for when we do get ashore. That doesnt include fuel gas and marinas, so you'll have to work that out yourself.
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The original poster should beware of shoal waters here....

Here's a bit that I found...
The definition of "passenger" for all passenger-carrying vessels is found in 46 United States Code § 2102 (21)(A). ... Passengers for hire are defined as those passengers who have "contributed consideration as condition of carriage on the vessel, whether directly or indirectly flowing to the owner, charterer, operator, agent, or any other person having an interest in the vessel."

Chapman's Piloting and Seamanship: "...specifically excluded is the voluntary sharing of actual expenses of the voyage by monetary contribution or by making a donation in kind of fuel, food, beverages, or other supplies." "...In all other situations, where there is a consideration for passage, the craft is considered as operating commercially..."
Hmm. we arent Americans, the vessel wont be US registered and its unlikely that aside from the USVI and Guam that we will be enterting US waters . Luckily, as a result, we wont be covered by any US law aside from an island visit here and there. (no offence intended). But it is certainly something for us to consider if other nations have similar policies. Cheers OZ
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What happens if you are nearly seriosly rich (close but not flashly cashed right up)

and you hire a crew member for your yacht ... and the provisioning happens and you like your $40 per kg beef steak but you would prefer the crew to eat $10 steaks.....


You wash down the steak with $50 bottle of Plonk-a-rama and expect the crew to drink beer?


In one way it sounds reasonable, you've earned your money and wish to splash out. Fine. But can it be done at the table in front of crew?

Steak on one plate, baked beans on the other?


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If i was filthy rich I would probably have a paid crew that ate separately. Of course there would be a chef on board Plus there would be the bunny girls who..... Oops I better stop now, wrong forum!
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I suppose down there the rules are a bit different.

They are fairly explicit up here.

Makes it a commercial operation.

If you want people to join you....you pay.

The consideration (requirement for travel) passes to the owner...blah blah blah

http://www.thelog.com/askattorney/as...ney.aspx?x=353
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