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Old 13-09-2015, 19:01   #1
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Help me define a budget

Hi everyone

I'll just start off by saying I know nothing about sailing. I have a friend of a friend with a boat which I will get out on before I make any decisions.

I'm looking into doing a liveaboard, As it is, my possessions are fairly minimal so I'm considering something within 28'-32' range.

I'm well aware that costs can add up fast in maintenance and repairs if you're not careful picking a used sail boat. This may be very hard to answer but I'm wondering if anyone can offer any advice on a price range i should be looking at. I'd like to spend as little as possibly, while still getting something that isn't going to be trouble.

I'm fairly mechanically inclined having worked on cars and done some carpentry so I'd be willing to do some work myself, within reason.

Here's a few adds that caught my eye.
1978 Catalina 30 Sailboat
1979 30 Ft. Newport Mk II
Catalina 30 Sailboat - Price Reduced OBO

I think I'm probably in the $10000-15000 Canadian price range.


-firstly; is this a realistic price range or should i raise it to hopefully reduce future headaches.
secondly: if I'm going to spend around $15000 give or take in the 30ish foot range could anyone recommend any models to look at.
-It seems that parts are fairly expensive. Is it a better idea to spend the money upfront on a more expensive used boat than buying the parts and doing the work myself later?

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Old 14-09-2015, 09:12   #2
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I guess these questions are really unanswerable. You never know if an old boat is worth it until you get a good look at it.like a car A $20000 boat could end up with more problems than a $5000 boat. I'll do some more research on some reliable models to keep an eye out for and either do a good inspection or look at ones with service and survey records.
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Old 14-09-2015, 09:23   #3
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Re: Help me define a budget

A big question you need to answer is

Are you planning on sailing the thing regularly or will it be dock queen?

The answer here will help you decide if a potential boat will suit you
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Old 14-09-2015, 13:40   #4
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It would be so much easier and cheaper to have a dock queen, theres people giving them away around here because the moorage costs. But, I'd like to do a lot of sailing
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Mariner Yachts in the 28' category are well under 15k and easily live aboard and sail. I have a thing for Mariners, well built, solid older boats with an inviting price tag.


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That's a good point. Also it'd be a much better size to learn to sail well.
I'm definitely leaning towards as small a size as possible to keep all the costs down.

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Old 14-09-2015, 17:06   #7
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I've recommended the Catalina 30 in the past, for liveaboards, for a few reasons : There are plenty around, they have lots of interior space for their length (due to generous beam, and the construction method with the pre-formed liner), and change hands for a reasonable price.

Have you looked inside a boat that size and decided that they have enough space for you?
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Re: Help me define a budget

Check this one out for CAD10,000:

Don Robertson's Marine Marketplace - 33' HARTLEY 'QUEENSLANDER' PILOT-HOUSE SLOOP

Been on sale for the past two years, so could probably haggle a bit. Won't get anything better than a brand new yacht for that money.
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Old 14-09-2015, 18:47   #9
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I have read some good things about the Catalina's. I will keep an eye out for them. It appears my budget might be a bit low. But I'm not in a rush I'll keep track of their listing prices. It's pretty expensive for moorage around here so people might get desperate.

I really have no Idea about what's a suitable size for me. I haven't been on many boats. I'm planning to check out quite a few boats before making any decisions.
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seems like a pretty good deal. Although it's a very long way from Vancouver.
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Re: Help me define a budget

Man, it really depends! You're mechanically inclined you say, which is probably the biggest piece of the puzzle regardless of what you end up with.

One used, cheap boat might be a steal. The next might be a trap. Look for something that has good sails, good rigging, good engine, hard decks, no delaming bulkheads and sound hull / thru hulls. In addition, cosmetics can often be telling if the PO gave a crap about the boat.

It's certainly a buyers market and if you have time on your side you're sure to find something awesome.

Best of luck.
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