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Old 24-07-2014, 11:30   #16
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Yeah that was me I planted Everglades tomato seeds they're supposed to keep growing which would be really nice since it seems to take forever for tomatos to start producing fruit. I almost lost them when a storm sprayed a lot of salty mist over them and are still recovering but they seem to be perking up the last few weeks you can see in the photo the hoop to keep the tarp from crushing them that I now

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Old 24-07-2014, 11:39   #17
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yes, tomatoes are a tropical vine....they only behave as annuals in gardens because it gets too cold for them. But in tropical and subtropical environments, when protected from frost, they will keep growing year after year. If you give them enough soil (like more than 5 gallons), and you let them grow by letting them crawl around your bulwarks for instance, their size will buffer some of the problems they might encounter, but you want to keep the soil as salt free as possible. If you do end up soaking them in salt, once the encounter is over really soak the beeguz out of them with fresh water....Let it run through the soil and take the salt away out the bottom.
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Erased second copy. My experience with tomatoes in Florida is that they die off after about a year or two there's determinate and indeterminate but the only ones that I know of that are perennials are the Everglades
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I am going to try aeroponics which will keep the roots covered and protected at all times from the salt spray. I think it will work well on land so I'm hoping it will transition to boat well also.
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It sounds like a great experiment and I think you're right about it protecting the roots but if the foliage gets spray on it the plant will either die or take long time to recover so best bet is to have a way to cover or move inside
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Erased second copy. My experience with tomatoes in Florida is that they die off after about a year or two there's determinate and indeterminate but the only ones that I know of that are perennials are the Everglades
You are absolutely right and a significant oversight on my part. Determinate will stand up like a bush, and die off after 1 year, or maybe two and have a definate flowering and fruiting season. Indeterminate will crawl on the ground (if not supported) and keep growing flowering and producing fruit until it just dies.


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If you get heirloom varieties you can save the seeds to refresh you stocks, if you get hybrids, there is no telling what you might get from the seeds if they even germinate at all.


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I did a little research on perennials. Tomatoes are technically perennials. But they are tender perennials which means they olny last a couple years at the most. So far the Everglades is only tomato I found that will last indefinitely. It took me a lot of research to find, now I'm looking for a sweet pepper that's highly productive, will grow well in a container, and will last more than a couple years. As a side note bell peppers are a poor choice because they don't produce much
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interesting- I was unaware that tomatoes are perennials. I will look for some of the Everglades tomatoes seeds and see if they can withstand my black thumb.
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I purchased 35 native Florida wild Everglades tomato seeds for $5 from localharvest.org. They're actually known as growing like weeds
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I'm not sure how I can simulate the salt issue on land. I guess I'll see if I can figure out how to grow something on land and try to perfect that and once we're aboard I will try to translate that to boat growing- someone mentioned they put hoops around to cover the plants from salt spray- I'll work on a design for that

Can't you just put salt on your plants?

How about making charcoal from driftwood and crushing it for fertilizer?

Further.. aren't there various plants which lock salts and make them inaccessable?

Finally, a good rain does a lot to flush salts from plants on the boat.
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I'm not sure how I can simulate the salt issue on land. I guess I'll see if I can figure out how to grow something on land and try to perfect that and once we're aboard I will try to translate that to boat growing- someone mentioned they put hoops around to cover the plants from salt spray- I'll work on a design for that
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Why would you want to though? A lot of this work has already been done, you just have to look it up. I do encourage you to look up beach varieties for alternatives. They natively already adapted to a salty environment.


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Try New Zealand spinach.
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bubba is terminally pissed off that his lawn grass doesnnt grow in sea air. he is not happy.. oops....
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