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Old 01-09-2014, 02:49   #1
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Gas in the Med?

Hi there !

We are quite new to the Forum, we are living in the Fuimicino Canal ( near Rome ) on our Gemini catamaran, when we reached France last year we changed our UK bottled gas to Le-Cube, this year when we arrived in Italy we had to change again to Twinney gas, next year we plan to sail to Malta and stay there for 12 months at least. After that probably Greece ?

Can anyone tell me the best gas bottle system that can be re-filled in all the countries or do I just keep paying to change each time I move my boat to a new country ??

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Re: Gas in the Med ?

We always used camping gaz. Had no problems exchanging bottles anywhere. It's not as cheap as some of the local bottles but convenient as you don't need to change bottles at each country.
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Yep, Camping gaz, in chandleries and almost every super/mini market. Simple exhchange of empty for full. Largest bottle might only be 2.9? kg but this lasts us more than 8 weeks. Maybe we should spend less time eating out.
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Re: Gas in the Med ?

We're set up for propane and those stupid little blue bottles of butane camping gas. Got fed up searching for either, and switched over to electric cooking via induction cooktops and infrared. Nuwave oven and stove, much easier than fiddling with gas, plus it cooks quicker, it's safer and more accurate.
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Re: Gas in the Med ?

Thanks for your help so far, on Duet we have a gas fridge ( installed in our catamaran ) so we get through about 5kg a week when on anchor ! Can you find the 5.75 Kg Camping Gas bottles around Malta and Greece ?


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Re: Gas in the Med ?

Blackswan, THANK YOU!!! I've been looking for something like this prior to taking off for French Polynesia. I have a propane outboard, so this is a godsend. Much appreciated.
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Re: Gas in the Med ?

Aren't there any propane-powered forklifts (lift trucks) used in Europe? That's where my 7.5 gallon composite liquid-feed propane tanks come from. It's hard to believe that propane is so difficult to find, especially in a seaport area with cargo capacity. Maybe the recreation vehicle or camping market isn't the right place to be searching.
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Re: Gas in the Med ?

It's not hard to find, refilling can be hard to find and most countries have their own brand of bottle. So country hopping means your old bottle you bought in France which you paid 25 euro deposit for can't be exchanged or filled in Italy. If you are in one country for a long time the local bottles may be better value, but cruising in and out, camping gaz is most convenient.
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Re: Gas in the Med ?

Little pricey but one of these paid for itself quickly when I was stuck using overpriced camping gaz. Now have 2 composite bottles from a UK diy store (homebase) and either refill them if poss of borrow a local bottle and transfer. Composite is good as you can see the gas level.
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Thanks for your help so far, on Duet we have a gas fridge ( installed in our catamaran ) so we get through about 5kg a week when on anchor ! Can you find the 5.75 Kg Camping Gas bottles around Malta and Greece ?


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If you have shore power, run the numbers, we leave our fridge on electric when at a dock and that means we go thru very little propane. We just use a small amount for cooking and often use an electric fry pan to further reduce consumption.

Doesn't solve the long term issue but unless electricity is crazy expensive, thru the winter should be handled.

By the way how much is the monthly slip for a Gemini in Rome running?
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Re: Gas in the Med ?

My question remains on the table: Does anyone in the forum, living now in Europe, have information regarding the filling of commercial (not camping or small appliance) propane cylinders, as used for forklifts (lift trucks)?
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Most countries have their ownbottles, fittings and regulators. The deposit on bottles is not much compared to camping gas. Their fittings translate to commercial use as well but the gas is almost the same. wintering in marinas it might be easier to buy a cheap hotplate but if you cook and bake you can do the swap if the tanks fit your locker or you have room on deck. The more expensive harbors usually have someone who can fill different bottles. Both Tunisia and Turkey will fill American bottles. Greece and Italy have cheap bottles and fittings in most ports. Ciao Jim and Barbara currently in Kemer Turkey
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