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Old 04-11-2012, 08:23   #226
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This one is a more standard Nor'easter. They weren't that unusual when I lived in New Jersey. My mom always made sure we had candles and such in case the power went out. Sometimes we got snow and sometimes we didn't. In one stupendous storm, we went into a state park in the New Jersey pine barrens for Thanksgiving with another family. It was a dirt road for miles ... and then we got dumped with two feet of snow the night after Thanksgiving. Someone, I suppose the National Guard, actually airlifted food in to the park using a helicopter -- I'd never seen one in person before. The cabin next to us burned to the ground and all the other people there took those people in (thank goodness no one was hurt) so they had a roof over their heads). After that the four adults in our group took turns keeping watch. The fire had been caused by a dirty chimney and there was no reason to think our cabin was any safer. Monday afternoon road plows finally reached us, and we were able to go home.

I hope the media doesn't over-hype this, although any storm will multiply the misery. I hope they give you accurate information.
thursday is the prediction for this fast moving low,bringing ne winds on the e coast,but weather services are not even sure it will develop at the moment.
i think i would be more worried about freezing weather from the associated high pressure!

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Old 04-11-2012, 08:28   #227
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Key words.

Yes -- "even as its force weakened." That storm had astounding capacity to pile water up on land.

In Gulfport, near where I used to live, they have signs around town. There are a couple six feet above the ground that say "Category 1." The signs are supposed to remind people of how high the storm surge is likely to be even if the hurricane is "only" category 1.

Post-tropical Sandy still had hurricane force winds, but they (as you know) would have been called "category 1" -- and no one expected a 13 - 14 ft storm surge in NYC.

The whole thing reminds me of something from that TWC show "It Could Happen Tomorrow," where they imagine worst-case scenarios for all sorts of natural disasters and then image what the destruction would be like ... except this was real. It wasn't hype.
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I didn't say you said it was a Cat 4. I said they wouldn't have called it a Cat 4,
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Of course not.

Because it was a Cat 1.

Pretty simple.
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Do we really have to bicker about this?

I would have to say no, but that isn't stopping it.
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Does not.
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Several friends here debate the nature of this storm. Hurricane? Big storm?

In one city alone, 7 million people were brought to their knees for what will turn out to me months. Years later, some will still be hurting. Up and down the coast and 500 miles inland and beyond, people are killed and hurting. Ships at sea lost, people killed.

Hospitals closed, mass transit closed.

Put any name you want on it, this will be the most costly storm in dollars and lives to hit the US, possibly ever. If this were a game of bowling, the winds, rains, threw a perfect strike.

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Several friends here debate the nature of this storm. Hurricane? Big storm?

In one city alone, 7 million people were brought to their knees for what will turn out to me months. Years later, some will still be hurting. Up and down the coast and 500 miles inland and beyond, people are killed and hurting. Ships at sea lost, people killed.

Hospitals closed, mass transit closed.

Put any name you want on it, this will be the most costly storm in dollars and lives to hit the US, possibly ever. If this were a game of bowling, the winds, rains, threw a perfect strike.
I have a friend that is still hurting from Katrina.

Imagine if Sandy had been a Katrina or an Andrew!
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Of course not.

Because it was a Cat 1.

Pretty simple.

Yes. I don't understand the the flap is about.
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I would have to say no, but that isn't stopping it.

It takes two, and I'm not playing.
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thursday is the prediction for this fast moving low,bringing ne winds on the e coast,but weather services are not even sure it will develop at the moment.
i think i would be more worried about freezing weather from the associated high pressure!

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It's a real concern. A lot of people don't have heat.
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Put any name you want on it, this will be the most costly storm in dollars and lives to hit the US, possibly ever.
Capt Mayo, Sir:

100+ deaths with Sandy, 1800 deaths with Katrina. Katrina $125 billion with a b. Guess we don't know about Sandy yet, and given the population density differences, possibly more expensive beach homes were destroyed than with Katrina but try explaining that to those just plain folks in N.O.
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Re: Frankenstorm!

This is what happened to us in New London....and that's only in the north end of the yard...LL
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I'm hearing whispers of another storm heading our way, does anyone know anything about this?
Atol...Mr Weatherman?
I'd say they are little more than whispers. Here is the latest Special Weather Statement for my area tonight:

"LOW TEMPERATURES MONDAY NIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO FALL INTO THE 20S.
THOSE WITHOUT POWER SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR ANOTHER COLD NIGHT.

A SIGNIFICANT COASTAL STORM WILL LIKELY IMPACT THE TRI-STATE
REGION WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO INCREASE
THAT STRONG GUSTY WINDS...RAIN/WINTRY PRECIPITATION...COASTAL
FLOODING AND ADDITIONAL BEACH EROSION WILL RESULT FROM THIS
SYSTEM. STAY TUNED FOR THE LATEST FORECASTS."

I'd say it's time to end the season for me. I was lucky and found my boat floating with only minor damage after Sandy. Since my boatyard is getting ansty to pull the boat I'll oblige them. The docks here have taken a beating and who knows how well they will hold up in another Nor' easter. I've taken off the sails and dropped the boom literally on the deck. Just waiting for the stick and boat to be pulled. I'll sleep easier even if it is in a house with no power.
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Mike where is homeport...? I've read a number of your terrific blog entries and am not seeing where you anchor or moor.
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Capt Mayo, Sir:

100+ deaths with Sandy, 1800 deaths with Katrina. Katrina $125 billion with a b. Guess we don't know about Sandy yet, and given the population density differences, possibly more expensive beach homes were destroyed than with Katrina but try explaining that to those just plain folks in N.O.
Did not say the largest storm, but how many storms kill over 100 people? Not many.

This storm could break Katrina for dollar damage, so the reports go. 106 Billion for Katrina.

Sandys Integerated Kinetic Enegry index or IKE was 140 Terajoules. That was a reading 20 higher than Katrina. The highest reading was Isabel in 2003. All this according to the University of Miami.

The 1833 (1836 be another count) is not body's in bags, that is numbers from several sources, including reported missing persons. Child support payment deadbeats hardly pass as room temperature bodies. The real number is still a horrendous 1400 or so, as a more realistic figure.

Compare this to the 10,000 missing from one town of 17,000 in Japan due to the tsunami.
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