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Old 18-04-2019, 18:51   #1
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Foul Weather Gear Advice Needed

I was all set to get the Gill OS2 Jacket when my cousin told me he gets nearly half off Helly Hansen gear with his corporate partnership. So, Gill OS2 or Helly Hanse AEGIR Ocean Jacket (retail $500). I think both would be around $300 for me. Which one is better?
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Old 19-04-2019, 01:50   #2
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Are you Euro based? If so go to Decathlon and get their foulies... great kit by 1 of the main manufacturers

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Are you Euro based? If so go to Decathlon and get their foulies... great kit by 1 of the main manufacturers

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Old 19-04-2019, 08:09   #4
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Which one do you like better (find more comfortable)? Trying it on should tell you most of what you need to know.


After all, comfort is more important than the % discount.


They're both probably pretty nice gear.
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Old 19-04-2019, 08:45   #5
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I was all set to get the Gill OS2 Jacket when my cousin told me he gets nearly half off Helly Hansen gear with his corporate partnership. So, Gill OS2 or Helly Hanse AEGIR Ocean Jacket (retail $500). I think both would be around $300 for me. Which one is better?
Go for fit
Also the OS2 is not the same range as Aegir.
You say Ocean Jacket.
The Aegir is much ticker. The Hood is also more offshor eon the Aegir. But less confortable when not needed.

I think the OS2 should be compared to the Skagen jacket, not the Ocean jacket.
Gill Race OCean Jacket is more of a match to the Aegir.

Like I said, if you are not a regular offshore sailor Go for confort more then the Offshore capabilities. Offshore jackets are bulkier, heavier, and les confortable then the coastals or light offshore.

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Old 20-04-2019, 09:37   #6
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Try them on.
I’ve found that HH is a very different fit than Gill and still different from Musto, West, etc.
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Old 20-04-2019, 09:41   #7
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I am a huge fan of HH. They have a lifetime warranty and they mean it. They replaced a 20 yr. old sailing jacket of mine, no questions asked, free of charge for a much better one!
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Old 20-04-2019, 10:12   #8
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I am a huge fan of HH. They have a lifetime warranty and they mean it. They replaced a 20 yr. old sailing jacket of mine, no questions asked, free of charge for a much better one!
Interesting. I bought a HH jacket 2 years ago. Wore it about 3 times. Needed it a couple of months ago and the waterproof membrane was falling apart. I will try taking it back
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Old 20-04-2019, 10:18   #9
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Regarding Gill, I bought an OS3 to replace my beat OS2. Hated the picket situation and returned it for another 2.
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I've had several suits of weather gear">foul weather gear over the years and seldom have worn any of them. They tend to lay in storage and fall apart with out any help from me. I don't know what your cruising grounds are like, but I've been as far north as New Foundland and as far south as New Zealand and have seldom used them. I think they are great for racers, but for ordinary souls they are probably a waste of money.
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I have sold dozens of both jackets and find that both are generally well made. I have also used both. Of the two I personally prefer the OS2 however either one, if properly chosen, will serve you well. Also, the AEGIR is a higher end jacket, and is more like the Gill OS1.

How are you sailing? If you are just day sailing, particularly in the summer from NY south, both jackets will be overkill. If you are sailing in the spring and winter, then they will serve you well.

Please note that my comments are based upon sales here in the U.S. Also, there are other options besides these two. I find that I tend to wear the bib far more often than my OS2. The bib, along with a good wool sweater and appropriate layers keeps me very comfortable. I tend to wear my OS2 only when it is raining hard or it's cold and windy. Usually I wear my OS2 bib and put on a light jacket unless things are getting really unpleasant.

Below are some general observations based upon my use and what my customers have said after buying them. Gill make great nautical gear and HH make great outdoor gear. The HH and Gill bibs are very popular and well designed. The HH sailing jackets are good, although I have some reservations. The HH jackets are well made but I have found that there are a couple of design features that are a concern to some but not all people.

HH jackets and bibs tend to run small whereas Gill tend to be more American sized, that is sized for the average American suburbanite. I am not sure if you are buying in the store or online. If you are buying online and buy the HH, order one size up. If buying the Gill you are more likely to be successful with your normal size.

The waterproof capabilities of both are pretty comparable. The Gill tends to have a better collar. The Gill collar can be pulled tight to keep the water our whereas the HH jackets, other than the AEGIR, just zip up and tend to let in water. On the other hand, the AEGIR jacket is significantly more expensive.

Some people have complained about the way the HH collars are sewn. The stitching that connects the outer shell and the fleece collar lining is often on the inside of the collar, causing chafe for some customers. Again, not everyone is bothered by it but I would definitely try them on before buying.

When you try them on, see how the pockets are. Do the hand warming pockets work for you? Do they adjust well for you? Can you cinch the sleeves, waist, etc. in a comfortable manner? As others have said, if you cannot be comfortable, you will not want to wear it and it will be a waste of money.

In summation, both are good jackets but only you can decide by trying it on. Most people don't really need an OS2 or comparable jacket. I can count on one hand the number of times I wear mine each year. I use my bibs and light jacket far more often and I am out sailing pretty often, both day sailing and cruising.
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I use Guy Cotten X-Trapper. Itís the standard of the commercial fishing industry in Alaska and will last much longer then the fancy yuppie things you see all the yachty folks hanging out at the marina wearing.
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In AK Grundens are more common than Guy Cotten. I lived in Grundens Briggs/Herkules combo (and BFG X-Tra-Tuffs) for 35 seasons. Now that we're cruising rather than fishing, we're giving Grundens Neptune a try. We like the bibs and jackets with hoods.


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I've had several suits of foul weather gear over the years and seldom have worn any of them. They tend to lay in storage and fall apart with out any help from me. I don't know what your cruising grounds are like, but I've been as far north as New Foundland and as far south as New Zealand and have seldom used them. I think they are great for racers, but for ordinary souls they are probably a waste of money.
I'm in Newfoundland and I have the HH. Plenty of crap weather here and you won't go out much if you aren't comfortable. Mine fit me great which is most surprising. That said I think they have to be tried to make a good decision.
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Are you Euro based? If so go to Decathlon and get their foulies... great kit by 1 of the main manufacturers

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