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Old 09-04-2014, 21:02   #1051
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Re: Forum Member's Boat and Daughter in Trouble off of Mexico

Australian Papers finally picked up the story, Why did this US family’s around-the-world attempt spark outrage? | News.com.au

Glad to here your all back safe and sound
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I am sure the sight that Eric mentions of the sail boat coming alongside the Navy ship with Rebel Heart banners streaming must have brought a tear to their eye.

Well done whoever that was
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Sounds more like the beginning to " The Lion Sleeps Tonight".
Of course your right!

I got my African songs confused.
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Welcome back Rebel Heart family, thanks for taking the time to let us know you got in . We are here for you.
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*THIS ARTICLE WAS FACTUAL, AND TRUE*> Every sailor, Eric included, knows that it is their choice and responsibility when putting to Sea, to have their vessel prepared to the best of their knowledge, for it is ultimately their lives and the lives of their crew who depend upon it.

From the article link in your post>"The foil emanated a humming noise and a vibration that Mike and other crewmembers aboard Coyote could hear and feel during tests, the Coast Guard Report noted. It reported that a number of individuals looked at the keel’s foil and bulb through the Coyote’s sight glass while the vessel was underway, but “none of those persons, however, reported seeing any movement of the keel or bulb as the vessel worked in the seas.” < This is true and the concensus of all aboard was that the 'humming' was due to the length and design of the underwater appendage. The 'vibration' was thought to be caused by the 'hum' and dismissed. It was'nt as if the bulb was flopping around all wonky like for anything to have been attributed to it at the time. More from the report>"The report concluded on this point that “the effect these vibrations had on the joint securing the bulb to the foil is unknown.”< which was what the concensus of those aboard at the time (also deduced).

“At the time of the grounding,” the Coast Guard report said, “none of the parties aboard felt that it was serious enough of an incident to require that the Coyote be hauled out of the water or to have the keel inspected. The Concordia project manager, however, did feel the incident was serious enough to conduct an internal examination of the vessel. The responsibility for deciding whether or not to dry dock the Coyote after the grounding was Mike Plant’s. He did not have the vessel dry docked, nor did he have any divers examine the keel. Considering the fact that the keel was a new design, it would have been prudent to have the vessel inspected after the grounding.”

"The Coast Guard noted that “the fact that the vessel was not launched until September of 1992, due to financial delays, probably influenced Plant’s decision not to dry dock the vessel. He was on a tight schedule from the day the vessel was launched through to the day he departed New York City for France. His schedule did not allow for unanticipated delays such as hauling the vessel out of the water.”

Alas, this was a cause to a fatal effect in the end.

His family thanked me for my assistance before, during and after the voyage ended tragically. I did what I could and spent a considerable amount of personal savings in the end. I saw no merit in the original post by S' Monkey to drag a dead sailor's name through the muck in a thread that it had/has no place in. I'll defend his Honor forever....So my coming to Mike's defense S'Monkey was'nt meant to be personal with you, rather, it brought back some very painful memories for me of a great sailor, and friend, who was lost at Sea much too early in his sailing career IMO. I rarely drink, and after I replied to your initial post, I actually had to have 2. I literally sat in my room with the door closed holding my copy of the Memorial Service Card from Mike's passing, one of the very few items I have managed to save through every personal tragedy I have endured since his passing.
I consider all this a bit dramatic and yet interesting consider the fact that you failed to mention the groundings at all in your initial post, while claiming you personally checked the bolts in Newport, which was pre-groundings.
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Welcome back to the crew of Rebel Heart, as has been said many times already, we are here if and when you need us. Grab the girls and your wife and give them a big hug from all the CFers...
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It's great to hear from you Eric and I'm glad you're all back and hopefully have a few weeks to decompress!
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I am so glad that the crew of Rebel Heart are safe and well...but...

Eric, I wish to remind you of your high and mighty approach to other yachties that have come 'unstuck' and your 'I am a professional and it would never happen to me approach'. Perhaps you have learnt a lesson here...or maybe not...
Remember that our sailing god is a bit of a pervert and '**** happens'

Good luck in getting back on your feet again. You should be a much better sailor for it.
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I spent a few minutes with the Kaufmans tonight, and they wanted to express their gratitude for the rallies of support. They were absolutely blown away by the donations, and so so grateful. Everyone is healthy and ready for some peace and quiet, but they are really looking forward to reconnecting with friends once things have quieted down. Miss Lyra looked absolutely darling, Cora is amazing (duh!), and they are working with someone for help with media. I know they have a loooong road ahead, but I couldn't think a family more suited to the challenge



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Re: Forum Member's Boat and Daughter in Trouble off of Mexico

saltysam is this really the time to rub salt into a wound? Kick a man while he is down? I disagree with your take on Eric's input on this forum. He has offered much good advice to the uninitiated here with out the "holier than thou" attitude.
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Thanks for the update avb3. It is good to know they in good hands safe and sound.
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I am so glad that the crew of Rebel Heart are safe and well...but...

Eric, I wish to remind you of your high and mighty approach to other yachties that have come 'unstuck' and your 'I am a professional and it would never happen to me approach'. Perhaps you have learnt a lesson here...or maybe not...
Remember that our sailing god is a bit of a pervert and '**** happens'

Good luck in getting back on your feet again. You should be a much better sailor for it.
My...that was helpful and considerate.
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Welcome home Eric, Charlotte, Cora and Lyra -- glad you are feeling better Lyra!
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Welcome back Rebel Heart crew ... you did well!
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Sad, but great result. Charlotte knows your priorities Eric so lets hope we see that wheel in NZ.
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