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Old 09-04-2014, 12:07   #961
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Re: Forum Member's Boat and Daughter in Trouble off of Mexico

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I think it is pretty comical and just proves how miss-informed people really are that complain about using our tax dollars to rescue this family. Are we not paying our military 24/7 to do their job? since when did a rescue like this cost the Navy any "extra" money? as a military veteran, I know of countless time we conducted simulated rescues and "War Games" at dummy targets costing millions of $$$ that never accomplished anything but "Practice".
At least with this rescue they got the chance to do the real thing, which I may add that these guys on the ship were happy and excited to do. I know when I was on duty, I could not wait to conduct an actual mission that ment something.
Now these guys get to go back home with a feeling of accomplishment and pride of a job well done.

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I think it is pretty comical and just proves how miss-informed people really are that complain about using our tax dollars to rescue this family. Are we not paying our military 24/7 to do their job? since when did a rescue like this cost the Navy any "extra" money? as a military veteran, I know of countless time we conducted simulated rescues and "War Games" at dummy targets costing millions of $$$ that never accomplished anything but "Practice".
At least with this rescue they got the chance to do the real thing, which I may add that these guys on the ship were happy and excited to do. I know when I was on duty, I could not wait to conduct an actual mission that ment something.
Now these guys get to go back home with a feeling of accomplishment and pride of a job well done.
Well said! It seems like there are plenty of areas that people could complain about excessive spending rather than the rescue of a family in need...
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Re: Forum Member's Boat and Daughter in Trouble off of Mexico

Lyra Kaufman, sick toddler rescued from Rebel Heart, back in San Diego - CBS News

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I figure if you don't want to just donate, buy Eric's book! Unauthorized Guide to Sailing in Mexico. Make him a best selling author, I'm getting the Kindle edition right now.

That some people will review the book at 1 star and make negative comments when they clearly did not read the book just blows me away.


Wow...writing a guide after being there 1 whole year. No, not cocky at all

Nobody should ever have to go through anything like this. Happy to see that they are safe and sound back in CA
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Wow...writing a guide after being there 1 whole year. No, not cocky at all
If the book is based on the most recent cruise, you can be pretty sure the information is current!
Not sure the ink would be dry though.
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Re: Forum Member's Boat and Daughter in Trouble off of Mexico

That was a nice article, I thought. Thanks.

Good to see they made it back.
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It's wonderful when you like to donate to this relief fund.

Others have posted this before but it seems to be ignored:
Keep your donation activities to yourself, no need to advertise what you did and no need to make use of a "morally and politically correct" opinion venting towards others that did not donate. If you think the total collected sum isn't enough, you could donate more yourself, instead of putting "moral pressure" onto others who have not deserved that treatment.

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I agree!

Some people might not be in a financial position to donate.

Trying to humiliate someone into a contribution is just as bad as those people who are criticizing the Kaufmans.
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Thanks, salty for that link.

In part it read:

The Kaufmans' decision to sail around the world with Lyra and her sister Cora has struck a chord with parents - angering some who accuse them of endangering their children and drawing admiration from others for having the courage and determination to follow their dream.
"The rescuers have to risk their own lives to help people who do these kinds of stupid things on purpose, and I don't think that's right," said Margaret Dilloway, a San Diego novelist who has three children, adding that she thinks the family should have to foot part of the bill for the rescue operation.

Dilloway said, "They'll probably go on the 'Today' show to talk about this, and write a book about it, do a mini-series and get 15 minutes of fame because that's how our country tends to reward people who choose recklessly to put themselves and their children in danger."


Ms. Dilloway ought to ask whether or not she should pay for fire & police services. Yeah, I know it's been said before.


I sure wouldn't wanna be one of Ms. Dilloway's kids.


She's probably a soccer mom, but she's lucky her kids haven't been shot or stabbed at high school.


She's someone who needs to do some reading up on how taxes in a COMMUNITY of citizens actually work.
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I think "Dilloway" should become a new epithet, used to indicate a small-minded, sheltered, conformist, and spiteful person.

Ah, jeez, don't be such a DILLOWAY!

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Re: Forum Member's Boat and Daughter in Trouble off of Mexico

It's a good thing Peter Tangvald is not alive today. They would surely lock him up and take away his kids. If you've never heard of him here is a brief summary:

THOMAS TANGVALD: In His Father's Wake

It's a fascinating and tragic story of one of our greatest engine-less sailor of years gone by. His whole story is in his autobiography ..At Any Cost: Love, Life & Death at Sea : An Autobiography: Peter Tangvald: 9780944428092: Amazon.com: Books

The title says it all.
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Thanks, salty for that link.

In part it read:

The Kaufmans' decision to sail around the world with Lyra and her sister Cora has struck a chord with parents - angering some who accuse them of endangering their children and drawing admiration from others for having the courage and determination to follow their dream.
"The rescuers have to risk their own lives to help people who do these kinds of stupid things on purpose, and I don't think that's right," said Margaret Dilloway, a San Diego novelist who has three children, adding that she thinks the family should have to foot part of the bill for the rescue operation.

Dilloway said, "They'll probably go on the 'Today' show to talk about this, and write a book about it, do a mini-series and get 15 minutes of fame because that's how our country tends to reward people who choose recklessly to put themselves and their children in danger."


Ms. Dilloway ought to ask whether or not she should pay for fire & police services. Yeah, I know it's been said before.


I sure wouldn't wanna be one of Ms. Dilloway's kids.


She's probably a soccer mom, but she's lucky her kids haven't been shot or stabbed at high school.


She's someone who needs to do some reading up on how taxes in a COMMUNITY of citizens actually work.
To give you some insight as to who Ms. Dilloway is, of course in her own words. http://margaretdilloway.com/about-2/ I have always wondered why our current crop of journalists don't research their sources, and decide if they have relevance to the story.

She is what she is, the byline for her site is "Come for the books, stay for the snark."

At least quasi truth in advertising.

About the Author | Margaret Dilloway, American Housewife
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Thanks, salty for that link.

In part it read:

The Kaufmans' decision to sail around the world with Lyra and her sister Cora has struck a chord with parents - angering some who accuse them of endangering their children and drawing admiration from others for having the courage and determination to follow their dream.
"The rescuers have to risk their own lives to help people who do these kinds of stupid things on purpose, and I don't think that's right," said Margaret Dilloway, a San Diego novelist who has three children, adding that she thinks the family should have to foot part of the bill for the rescue operation.

Dilloway said, "They'll probably go on the 'Today' show to talk about this, and write a book about it, do a mini-series and get 15 minutes of fame because that's how our country tends to reward people who choose recklessly to put themselves and their children in danger."


Ms. Dilloway ought to ask whether or not she should pay for fire & police services. Yeah, I know it's been said before.


I sure wouldn't wanna be one of Ms. Dilloway's kids.


She's probably a soccer mom, but she's lucky her kids haven't been shot or stabbed at high school.


She's someone who needs to do some reading up on how taxes in a COMMUNITY of citizens actually work.

I agree...
And if a relative of hers is lost in a downed airline we should or shouldn't charge those individual's families for rescue or recovery?

Where does the act of humanity come in. It's first nature (humanity) that comes into play to help anyone in distress without thought of personal safety when the situation arises.
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Re: Forum Member's Boat and Daughter in Trouble off of Mexico

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I think "Dilloway" should become a new epithet, used to indicate a small-minded, sheltered, conformist, and spiteful person.

Ah, jeez, don't be such a DILLOWAY!

I like it! let's just all start using it....
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I like it! let's just all start using it....
...or Dillowit.

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Rebel Heart Crew: welcome home. Be strong...the ridiculous are gathering and they are heavily armed with self-serving ridicule, moral indignation, and the ever popular "I could-a-told-ya-so foresight" that hindsight never fails to unveil.
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