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Old 06-04-2014, 23:21   #556
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It was his choice yes, but he did have a CHOICE correct? Stay with the boat and not have it sunk or leave with the family. The Navy did not force him to leave, correct?
My understanding is that they basically say now or never, we aren't coming back for you.
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Its easy to get into a huff over the loss of a boat, but when you go through something really bad it puts your priorities straight quick, fast, and in a hurry. The guy wanted to go be with his family. Who wouldn't? *things* be damned. Your loved ones are what really matter.

I'm sure its very sad to lose the boat, but the family is safe, and the baby is getting better. That is what really matters. If the dream lives on it does.

And wow, what a feather in the cap of all the rescuers.
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One nugget of knowledge that I'm hoping comes out of this is... What was the poor baby afflicted with? What was the initial treatment? And was there anything that could have been brought on board that would have been able to treat her while at sea?

I've yet to consult a doctor to find out what exactly we want to bring in our offshore medicine chest and this really calls that into question. All the personal choice questioning aside, I think that might be the gem of knowledge here.
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My understanding is that they basically say now or never, we aren't coming back for you.
Of course they would come back, they can not refuse. But I imagine they said once "everyone" is off we will sink the boat because without anyone aboard it becomes a hazard.

And S/V Third Day, I'm not second guessing Eric, I'm just pointing out that he did have a choice. It is not like he was forced to abandon the boat as was implied by transmitterdan.
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Wasn't second guessing Eric's decision, he's an individual and free to make whatever decisions he wishes to. I was simply saying what my decision would have been in a similar situation.
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Are you saying they would not have taken off just Charlotte and the kids and left Eric to sail the boat? I find that hard to believe.
I think SOP is for the on-scene commander to 'encourage' an all or nothing deal. They don't want to face a second SAR for the undermanned boat a bit later.
And they (professionally) view one smallboat like all others, not much more than another RIB or panga alongside. Which for those of us who labor and fuss over our pride-and-joy's stings a little.

Personally, I think most bigger ships have the ability to hoist an average sailboat aboard and transport it (with a little rigging effort), but that's not what they're in business for (and think of the per hour expenses).
Particularly with a commissioned warship, there is a significant perceived risk nowadays (standoff/approach limits, etc.) Absurd maybe, but TTWII...
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Ahhh yes....we knew it was coming....it always does doesn't it.

Now comes the part when the second guessers, smarter, braver, and better seaman than Eric step in to say what should have been done, what they would have done from the saftey of their internet connection.

Sad...but then we have seen a lot of sad things posted on the internet in the last 36hrs.
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Maybe he should of tied the mainsheet around his leg and swam to Mexico towing the boat?

I would be interested in hearing HIS answers on all the decisions made, when and if he is ready. Not to judge, criticise or even scrutinise, but in the hope I might learn from his experience.

Right now though just glad to hear all are safe.
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Its easy to get into a huff over the loss of a boat, but when you go through something really bad it puts your priorities straight quick, fast, and in a hurry. ...
Also, people have been known to over react when under stress, and later regret their actions. Just saying.
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I'll be interested in hearing what happened as well, but I don't even need to hear that to know that he did the right thing under the circumstances.

Family is way more important than boat, and I think his family will be needing him.
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I would be interested in hearing HIS answers on all the decisions made, when and if he is ready. Not to judge, criticize or even scrutinize, but in the hope I might learn from his experience.
Me too, as all my long passages (except for one on my Cal 40 30 years ago) have been on vessels in the 30,000 to 100,000 ton range. One thing that can be said of both Eric and Charlotte's writing, they tell it straight and don't sugar coat the realities.
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It sounds like he had a choice, and chose to be a loyal father and husband.
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Oh here we go with the moral majority
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Oh here we go with the moral majority
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Eric did the right thing staying with his family. There is nothing else to say. For the dick swingers that would have stayed with the boat, after looking at your crystal balls knowing what actually took place. Can you use you psychic powers and pass on the lottery numbers for us poor folk who know nothing more than we can read.

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Eric did the right thing staying with his family. There is nothing else to say. For the dick swingers that would have stayed with the boat after looking at your crystal balls knowing what actually took place out there on a scary point in time can you pass on the lottery numbers for us poor folk who know nothing more than we b can read.

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There is no one right thing. Eric did what was best for him. Others may have done differently under the circumstances. He had a choice and chose what was best for him.
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