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Old 07-07-2016, 15:49   #481
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Those numbers would suggest that prior to having these systems we were loosing 30,000 people....? Thats a very large number
Very true....at least to be skeptical.

The USCG lives saved number while accurate in one regard, doesn't necessarily mean that something or someone else wouldnt have saved those people either.

Stats always have to be squeezed for the whole picture.
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Old 07-07-2016, 15:53   #482
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Very true....at least to be skeptical.

The USCG lives saved number while accurate in one regard, doesn't necessarily mean that something or someone else wouldnt have saved those people either.

Stats always have to be squeezed for the whole picture.
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Those numbers would suggest that prior to having these systems we were loosing 30,000 people....? Thats a very large number
No, what it means is that there were a lot of 'incidents'.

From Rustic Charm - A lot of those people would have been rescued by other means in the past.

But, regardless, it's a lot of people rescued by the system which proves it's worth.

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Very true....at least to be skeptical.

The USCG lives saved number while accurate in one regard, doesn't necessarily mean that something or someone else wouldnt have saved those people either.

Stats always have to be squeezed for the whole picture.
And those stats don't refer just to the USCG, but to the whole system. Believe it or not there is a world outside the U.S.
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Old 07-07-2016, 15:59   #484
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Here are some pretty charts and pretty impressive too.

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And those stats don't refer just to the USCG, but to the whole system. Believe it or not there is a world outside the U.S.

Don't let Donald Trump hear you say that.
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Old 08-07-2016, 03:36   #486
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And those stats don't refer just to the USCG, but to the whole system. Believe it or not there is a world outside the U.S.
I know there is a world outside the US.

I am often one that points that out.

But I can only speak for the USCG stats...so I did.

Unlike sommany here on CF that comment with little or no working knowledge of these organizations or devices.
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I see new EPRIB's selling for $300 - $600. But also count 19 offerings in Cat 1 and Cat 2 with some advertised as class 2. I will research what all this means for sure but can see it is not easy to pick one...either yellow or red.

Also the mounting bracket for $89.

The video of the boat where the people were rescued looked liked like a twin outboard set-up. I would have thought the boat would have sunk with the weight of the engines. Anyone know why that boat did not sink? Looked like air trapped underneath. Is it common for CC fishing boats stay afloat or sink?

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Old 08-07-2016, 05:30   #488
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Re: Father and his kids missing at sea

Way she was floating level I speculate that there was a whole lot of air trapped and eventually about all you would see maybe is a few feet of the bow sticking up, but they are supposed to float, sort of like a Cat sailboat I guess

I'd guess the the CG got there lickety split, that they were not in the water for long
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Only boats 20 feet and under in the US are required to have positive flotation....

Just read the the NMMA requires it for boats 26 and under to be certified...have not Co firmed that.

But a CC with partially empty fuel tank and a lot of below deck lockers and dead air bilge spaces near empty or with trapped air would be very buoyant.
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I didn't know the size break, but knew there was one.
Making a CC boat "unsinkable" Is easy, I believe it's usually just a big foam collar just under the gunwale?
I put unsinkable in parenthesis as of course anything can be made to sink, but there must be some sort of requirement that is met, some standard, but I have no idea what it is.
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I posted a question on the powerboat forum after I thought I woukd ask my question about a CC boat sinking there instead of this forum.

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A really good read on an epirb rescue.


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I thought the more interesting part was the sailors were keeping a close eye on the weather and they let their cat turn turtle. How quickly things turn.

I was on an inland lake on a calm day when I heard a train coming thru the shore line trees. In 15 seconds a 45kn wind with sideway rain came thru. 20 minutes later it was nice and calm again. I was on a power boat at the time...whew!!!

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