Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 29-09-2013, 09:14   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2
Fairwinds Sailing School

Hi,
I am thinking of attending the Fairwinds Sailing School in the Virgin Islands. Has anybody had any experiences with them and can tell me anything about them? Good, bad? Is ISCO widely recognized.
Thank you, Fronk
__________________

__________________
Fronk5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 10:22   #2
Moderator Emeritus
 
GordMay's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 31,596
Images: 240
Re: Fairwinds Sailing School

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Fronk.

What is "ISCO"? I certainly don't recognize it.
__________________

__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 10:58   #3
Registered User
 
Rubikoop's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St Thomas USVI
Boat: Freedom Express 39 cat ketch
Posts: 751
Fairwinds had their ASA accreditation suspended a couple of years ago. You can see it a few paragraphs down here. http://www.asa.com/states/schools_outside.html

They now do ICSO classes. http://www.chartersailinglessons.com...t_charters.php

My question to the OP is why do you want an ICSO certificate?
__________________
Rubikoop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 11:06   #4
Registered User
 
ty.gregory's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Panama City, Panama
Boat: Islander Freeport 41' Ketch
Posts: 422
Re: Fairwinds Sailing School

Okay, but if you just want to learn to sail, say your own boat, would it be so bad?
__________________
“If you end up with a boring miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest, or some guy on television telling you how to do your ****, then you deserve it.” ― Frank Zappa
ty.gregory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 11:15   #5
Registered User
 
Rubikoop's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St Thomas USVI
Boat: Freedom Express 39 cat ketch
Posts: 751
If you just wanted to learn to sail your own boat why would you be interested in getting a certificate from the International Charter Sailing Association?

I don't know if it would be "bad" to go with Fairwinds. Apparently the ASA had issues with them.
__________________
Rubikoop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 11:33   #6
Registered User
 
ty.gregory's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Panama City, Panama
Boat: Islander Freeport 41' Ketch
Posts: 422
Re: Fairwinds Sailing School

I guess my reasoning is, I just want to learn to sail, and don't know of other means to do it, yet. I don't need a certificate. Don't particularly want a certificate.

Any ideas?

Ty
__________________
“If you end up with a boring miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest, or some guy on television telling you how to do your ****, then you deserve it.” ― Frank Zappa
ty.gregory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 11:34   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2
Re: Fairwinds Sailing School

It's not that I want the ICSO certificate, but wondering if it is equal to the ASA certificate. I don't have my own boat yet so this would be so that I could bareboat charter a boat. I presume they will want to see some kind of training or experience?
thanks, Fronk
__________________
Fronk5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 11:43   #8
Registered User
 
Rubikoop's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St Thomas USVI
Boat: Freedom Express 39 cat ketch
Posts: 751
Quote:
Originally Posted by ty.gregory View Post
I guess my reasoning is, I just want to learn to sail, and don't know of other means to do it, yet. I don't need a certificate. Don't particularly want a certificate. Any ideas? Ty
Not familiar with Panama but I would think that going to where sailors are and introducing yourself would be a good start. Follow up with asking if anybody would be willing to teach you to sail if you provide lunch, beer, maybe some labor etc.

YouTube is a great resource to learn the vocabulary and basic concepts. Maybe start a new thread here and ask.
__________________
Rubikoop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 11:47   #9
Registered User
 
ty.gregory's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Panama City, Panama
Boat: Islander Freeport 41' Ketch
Posts: 422
Re: Fairwinds Sailing School

Sounds good. Thanks.
__________________
“If you end up with a boring miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest, or some guy on television telling you how to do your ****, then you deserve it.” ― Frank Zappa
ty.gregory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-09-2013, 11:50   #10
Registered User
 
Rubikoop's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St Thomas USVI
Boat: Freedom Express 39 cat ketch
Posts: 751
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fronk5 View Post
It's not that I want the ICSO certificate, but wondering if it is equal to the ASA certificate. I don't have my own boat yet so this would be so that I could bareboat charter a boat. I presume they will want to see some kind of training or experience? thanks, Fronk
I would start by asking the charter company you wish to use what their requirements are. Ask if you had an ICSO certificate if that would allow you to bareboat. You could also request a captain and charter the boat you want. After a week I would be surprised if the charter company turned you down to bareboat later. Typically once a charter company sees a completed charter on your resume you are good to go. If by your next charter you want a review, ask for a skipper for 1-3 days until your comfortable. Charter companies want you to succeed, have fun and be safe. Generally they want to work with you.
__________________
Rubikoop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 06:20   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1
Re: Fairwinds Sailing School

We had a VERY negative experience with Fair Winds several years ago. They are not reputable based on our experience, and we have heard other stories. I didn't know that their ASA membership was revoked, but I am glad to see it. Look somewhere else.
__________________
saltydog67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-07-2017, 15:42   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1
Re: Fairwinds Sailing School

Quote:
Originally Posted by saltydog67 View Post
We had a VERY negative experience with Fair Winds several years ago. They are not reputable based on our experience, and we have heard other stories. I didn't know that their ASA membership was revoked, but I am glad to see it. Look somewhere else.
Yah, these guys suck. Although, it may just be singular guy, since Capt. Dave Bello seems to be the only one around (other than their supposed ever ready legal team)
__________________

__________________
teambovine is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Irwin, sail, sailing, sailing school, school, wind

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:15.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.