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Kenomac · 07-08-2016, 10:50

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Originally Posted by exMaggieDrum

I think I'm going to add a length of fuel hose to my spares kit. Cheap.

My extra hose located in ditch bag. Squeeze bulb to be attached.

**Jim Cate** · 07-08-2016, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Kenomac

My extra hose located in ditch bag. Squeeze bulb to be attached.

I'm curious: what use is the fuel hose in a liferaft?

Jim

Kenomac · 07-08-2016, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Jim Cate

I'm curious: what use is the fuel hose in a liferaft?

Jim

The emergency items I need quick are located in the ditch bag. You can locate them on your boat where ever you please.

**Pete7** · 07-08-2016, 14:39

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Originally Posted by exMaggieDrum

I think I'm going to add a length of fuel hose to my spares kit. Cheap.

Might be better to pre-fit it so that it only requires connecting. Ends taped up and labelled ready to go. I know on my boat its only about 8 feet from tank to engine fuel pump but rigging it in a choppy seaway would be interesting and require the contents of the cockpit locker and rear cabin to be emptied.

How much is 8ft of 3/8th fuel pipe? say $20 for the posh Quicksilver stuff.

Pete

**StuM** · 07-08-2016, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Kenomac

The emergency items I need quick are located in the ditch bag. You can locate them on your boat where ever you please.

I had the same question as Jim.

So, in a "ditching" situation, do you take the time to take the useless items out of your ditchbag or do you take a piece of hose and other items into the liferaft?

It seems that your concept of a "ditch bag" and ours is a little different.

I have an "emergency kit" which contains a selection of items that I may need in a hurry. But that is separate to the stuff I plan to take if I have to get off the boat.

model 10 · 07-08-2016, 17:31

[QUOTE=StuM;2184157]I had the same question as Jim.

So, in a "ditching" situation, do you take the time to take the useless items out of your ditchbag or do you take a piece of hose and other items into the liferaft?
It seems that your concept of a "ditch bag" and ours is a little different.

It's a test of your metal to hang out in a life raft with a stinky fuel pump? No, you could pump saltwater over the canopy to cool things down. No, actually I can imagine a solar still fed by a bulb pump. I would leave it in, you would need stuff to do.

**StuM** · 07-08-2016, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Guy

It's a test of your metal to hang out in a life raft with a stinky fuel pump? No, you could pump saltwater over the canopy to cool things down. No, actually I can imagine a solar still fed by a bulb pump. I would leave it in, you would need stuff to do.

mettle?

model 10 · 07-08-2016, 18:17

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Originally Posted by StuM

mettle?

Ouch!

Sandero · 07-08-2016, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Kenomac

We've had a situation come up twice during the past three weeks which required an essential emergency tool that we were lucky to have onboard, nothing else would have worked in each situation.

A length of new fuel hose long enough to reach from the engine fuel tank pick up directly to the engine fuel filter.

One time were were stuck drifting in a busy channel without wind and no engine due to an air leak somewhere in the fuel system.... the length of hose saved us. Just the other day, no engine and no generator while anchored with moderate 15-20 knot winds predicted with not-so-good holding. Again, an air leak causing massive air to be sucked into the engine; but the hose allowed me to diagnose and repair the problem, plus... it could have gotten me out of a potential jam if I hadn't been able to find the source of air coming into the system.

'Just thought I'd throw this one out there in case some folks hadn't thought to have this important tool. I know I didn't, but on the first occasion I remembered that I hadn't yet thrown away an old outboard hose when I'd replaced it two weeks prior; very glad I still had it.

Also with the spare hose and a small jerry can of diesel, you can quickly diagnose if the problem is with the engine or the fuel delivery system.

When you need the hose, nothing else will work to get you out of the mess. The spare hose now resides in the ditch bag.

You can adapt a standard outboard hose with a priming bulb to replace a fuel line/system. Get one with the matching size to the fittings at the tank and primary fuel filter!

Thorne · 07-08-2016, 18:44

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Originally Posted by zeehag

toilet seal ring wax. many kits. good stuff. redford needed a lot of it

redford made every mistake you can make, I have never been able to finish watching that movie.

I would say that having a toilet seal ring is a GREAT thing to have on board now that I think of it.
Got at thru hull fitting leaking, any low pressure water leak, need something lightly "Stuck" to something else?

I like to keep everything in Kits.
Electrical
Small Mechanical
Heavy duty Mechanical
First Aid
Ditch Bag
Flexible repair
Hardware
Teak
Cleaning
Diving/Heavy weather

So, ok, my v birth is full of "Stuff" I may never use, but what the heck, I actually have used most of it here and there. Haven't used the Ditch bag yet.

**skipmac** · 07-08-2016, 19:34

Hi Ken,

What were the causes of the leaks? Curious what could happen in the fuel system out of the clear blue.

Kenomac · 07-08-2016, 23:22

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Originally Posted by skipmac

Hi Ken,

What were the causes of the leaks? Curious what could happen in the fuel system out of the clear blue.

The first time which left us stranded in a busy channel with no wind, was caused by an older hose which was apparently cracked, most likely near one of the hose clamps. But we couldn't find the leak, so we ended up replacing all the fuel lines after we got out of the situation.

The second time, our generator was broken and hadn't been used in over two weeks. There's a tee in the fuel line leading coming off the Racor system leading to both engines. Eventually, the fuel drained down from the unused genset and began sucking air into the engine.

Kenomac · 07-08-2016, 23:25

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Originally Posted by StuM

I had the same question as Jim.

So, in a "ditching" situation, do you take the time to take the useless items out of your ditchbag or do you take a piece of hose and other items into the liferaft?

It seems that your concept of a "ditch bag" and ours is a little different.

I have an "emergency kit" which contains a selection of items that I may need in a hurry. But that is separate to the stuff I plan to take if I have to get off the boat.

Our boat.... we organize things the way we like which works for us.

Your boat.... We couldn't care any less as to where you put your stuff.